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Old 09-17-2013, 04:19 PM
 
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The campaign against Obamacare began as a campaign for self-interest. Obamacare, conservatives promised, would raise your taxes, take away your doctor and possibly put you in front of a death panel. The fight to keep it from passing was a fight to keep bad things from happening.

But the effort has devolved into something much weirder: A campaign of self-sacrifice. The current crop of Republican strategies ask conservative congressmen to hurt their constituents and their political prospects, conservative governors to hurt their states, and conservative activists to hurt themselves. It's a kamikaze mission to stop Obamacare.

The campaign will likely fail to make a dent with the broader public. But it might be convincing to some hardcore conservative activists, who will go without health coverage they otherwise would have had. And then some of them will get sick, or hurt — and then what?

But behind all of it is a mounting desperation. Obamacare beat a filibuster. It beat the right's legal challenge. Its namesake beat the Republican Party's nominee for president. Come 2014, it will start helping millions of Americans afford health insurance, and come the 2016 election it will have been delivering health care to tens of millions of Americans for almost three years. That's not the kind of program that just goes away in American politics.

The GOP’s kamikaze mission to stop Obamacare

The GOP is really setting themselves for a disappointing 2016.
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Old 09-17-2013, 04:21 PM
 
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The GOP is really setting themselves for a disappointing 2016.
Really, it needs to be completely ended, every aspect.

They should do anything, and I mean ANYTHING required to make that happen.
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Old 09-17-2013, 04:23 PM
 
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The GOP hated social security. They hated medicare. But the public likes both quite a bit. Today, any politician of either party who goes on the record wanting to repeal either program is a dead duck. Accordingly, the pubs want to do anything they can to derail Obamacare before it takes hold, because people are going to like it, too. Spending taxpayer dollars on taxpayers goes against everything they stand for.
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Old 09-17-2013, 04:25 PM
 
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The GOP hated social security. They hated medicare. But the public likes both quite a bit. Today, any politician of either party who goes on the record wanting to repeal either program is a dead duck. Accordingly, the pubs want to do anything they can to derail Obamacare before it takes hold, because people are going to like it, too. Spending taxpayer dollars on taxpayers goes against everything they stand for.
Both are stupendously bad ideas.

True, some people like handouts, no mattter how ill-conceived. Still, all of them should be gotten rid of. We would all but SO much better off for it.
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Old 09-17-2013, 04:37 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Default Pubs are pathetic on this issue too

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The GOP hated social security. They hated medicare. But the public likes both quite a bit. Today, any politician of either party who goes on the record wanting to repeal either program is a dead duck. Accordingly, the pubs want to do anything they can to derail Obamacare before it takes hold, because people are going to like it, too. Spending taxpayer dollars on taxpayers goes against everything they stand for.
This is true.

Pubs want to fight it because they know that once it's implemented, it will WORK.
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Old 09-17-2013, 04:40 PM
 
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This is true.

Pubs want to fight it because they know that once it's implemented, it will WORK.
Define what you mean by "work".
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Old 09-17-2013, 04:43 PM
 
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By 'work' the leftists mean they'll get more free sh*t from the taxpayers.
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Old 09-17-2013, 04:43 PM
 
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Both are stupendously bad ideas.

True, some people like handouts, no mattter how ill-conceived. Still, all of them should be gotten rid of. We would all but SO much better off for it.

Probably not the first time you've been wrong.

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Old 09-17-2013, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Prescott Valley,az summer/east valley Az winter
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The BIGGEST reason that GOP congresspeople are so against the ACA (Obamacare) is that although few people are adversely affected by Obamacare congress is what IS affected. They do lose their platinum healthcare because they MUST get their healthcare from whatever healthcare is set up by their respective states, and the GOP states are trying to sink Obamacare by coming up with onerous healthcare decisions.
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Old 09-17-2013, 04:44 PM
 
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Probably not the first time you've been wrong.

I am NOT wrong.
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