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Old 09-20-2013, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Nearly 5 years in, the President has been reticent to engage Congress. Even Democrats are complaining. How do you explain that away Leroy?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/18/us...anted=all&_r=0
A. Democrats are complaining, according to your article, that Mr. Obama is being too centrist instead of more liberal not that they are complaining that Mr. Obama isn't caving enough to Republicans.


B. Mr. Obama has been reticent to engage Congress? Have you been asleep through this?"

Boehner: I got ’98 percent’ of what I wanted in debt deal

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Old 09-20-2013, 07:02 AM
 
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So you're saying bonehead is negotiating in good faith in demanding that the ACA be repealed in exchange for a temporary hike in the debt ceiling? It's a non opener.
Perhaps you should do a little research and check as to when a party has demanded that a program be eliminated before approving a increase in the debt ceiling. Here's a clue. It's never happened.
Like I said earlier. You can't negotiate with children.
Why are you limiting your point to one issue? What about the past 5 years of non-negotiation? Is Obamacare the depth of your understanding of this Presidency? It sure seems like it.
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Old 09-20-2013, 07:11 AM
 
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So you're saying bonehead is negotiating in good faith in demanding that the ACA be repealed in exchange for a temporary hike in the debt ceiling? It's a non opener.
Perhaps you should do a little research and check as to when a party has demanded that a program be eliminated before approving a increase in the debt ceiling. Here's a clue. It's never happened.
Like I said earlier. You can't negotiate with children.
You give us what we want and we will give you what you want is the very definition of negotiating.
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Old 09-20-2013, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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You give us what we want and we will give you what you want is the very definition of negotiating.
"Give us what we want and he won't execute our hostage, the American economy."
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Old 09-20-2013, 07:14 AM
 
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Barack Obama has still never really sold the American people on anything but himself.

For Obama supporters, the question has become frustrating and frequent: how can the man and the team who made a freshman senator the country’s first black president, and kept people with him despite Great Depression-level unemployment, have failed to truly turn public opinion around on a single difficult issue?


Read more: The 'meh' of a salesman - Edward-Isaac Dovere - POLITICO.com
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Old 09-20-2013, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Barack Obama has still never really sold the American people on anything but himself.

For Obama supporters, the question has become frustrating and frequent: how can the man and the team who made a freshman senator the country’s first black president, and kept people with him despite Great Depression-level unemployment, have failed to truly turn public opinion around on a single difficult issue?


Read more: The 'meh' of a salesman - Edward-Isaac Dovere - POLITICO.com
Mr. Obama no longer has to re-sell the concept of Obamacare. It is current law, duly passed using our constitutional system. That train not only left the station but will arrive on Oct. 1.

What is absurd is the GOP fanaticism in trying to endlessly revisit it. How many times has the House fruitlessly voted, 43? Now the extremists in the GOP are using blackmail -- threatening to bring the federal government, and maybe the whole economy, to its knees unless their demands are met.
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Old 09-20-2013, 07:25 AM
 
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Mr. Obama no longer has to re-sell the concept of Obamacare. It is current law, duly passed using our constitutional system. That train not only left the station but will arrive on Oct. 1.

What is absurd is the GOP fanaticism in trying to end it. How many times has the House fruitlessly voted, 43? Now the extremists in the GOP are using blackmail -- threatening to bring the federal government, and maybe the whole economy, to its knees unless their demands are met.
It would stop as soon as Obama convinced the country it's a good program. As the article notes, he has not been able to do that. That's certainly understandable when he himself has to resort to breaking it in an attempt to save it.
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Old 09-20-2013, 07:26 AM
 
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Threatening to do something harmful if your demands aren't met is to be expected from wife beaters and terrorists, not the US Congress.
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Old 09-20-2013, 07:37 AM
 
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Serious? Is this how they asked the question? "Tea Party Republicans want to............"

LOL

Rep. Ron Barber, D-Ariz., introduced a bill to repeal a provision of Obamacare that threatens to increase costs for senior citizens after constituents brought the issue to his attention.

Seniors push bill to repeal Obamacare provision that raises their costs | WashingtonExaminer.com

You know things are bad for President Obama when even Warren Buffett has soured on Obamacare and says that "we need something else."

Warren Buffett: Scrap Obamacare and Start Over | The Weekly Standard
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Old 09-20-2013, 07:37 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Default Nonsense

Congressional Republicans are pathetic. They're dumber than Putin and always wrong. "Negotiating" with this historically pathetic bunch of pretenders means that President Obama must do what Republicans want, and anybody with half a brain knows that doing so is NOT good for the country.

Hapless Pubs cannot change the reality of their repulsive existence by their negative narrative on the successful Presidency of President Barack Obama.

The President is always right when it comes to Congressional Republicans...and don't you forget it either. Either they do what he says, or continue to be losers.
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