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There's no collusion here to lock up more people. Stating two facts about incarceration rates doesn't show this. We were number 1 long before prisons were privatized. You've made some serious flaws in logic there. More library time and less internet time for you.
Tell that to the children of central Pennsylvania who were given harsh jail sentences for what were often summary offenses by a corrupt judge that was taking kick backs from a private prison. Burying your head in the sand and repeatedly telling yourself that corruption is not real does not make it go away.
It is very alarming. I don't see how people can deny or even acknowledge but be ok with all of this. It's amazing how willing people are to destroy lives in the name of the almighty dollar. Greed is destroying this country.
Of course this is happening. It falls right in line with big government thinking. You make so many things illegal that everyone is a criminal. Once you have that level of control over everyone's life you force them to do what you want.
ACTUALLY it falls under Big Business thinking, you know, your handlers
I don't have time to read the links, but I have read other articles. I agree with the thought that part of our 'war on drugs' involves keeping those private prisons full.
It is a New Yorker article about Civil Forfeiture, in which innocent people pulled over for (often) no reason end up losing their car and other possessions, with the proceeds benefiting the town or city. It is a very disturbing article.
This is a very common occurrence. Here in Atlanta I know many people (including myself) who have been caught up in what we call "quotas" for the police department in that they set up road blocks and pull over everyone and arrest people and hand out tickets for any reason. I have even had officers apologize for doing it and saying they had no choice that they had to fill the quota.
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Originally Posted by remoddahouse
There's no collusion here to lock up more people. Stating two facts about incarceration rates doesn't show this. We were number 1 long before prisons were privatized. You've made some serious flaws in logic there. More library time and less internet time for you.
Please note that even though the privatized prison system we have currently is relatively new, that prisons have for over a century had "convict labor" systems in place where prisoners performed work for businesses for pennies on the dollar of what they would have had to pay real workers who needed jobs. Many convict laborers, or "chain gangs" did railroad work and built a lot of infrastructure for businesses and local governments and didn't get paid anything, the prison that housed them were paid, so they were essentially slaves. Here in the south during harvest seasons especially, more people were arrested and jailed on trumped up charges to complete the harvesting of large landowners' crops.
There's no collusion here to lock up more people. Stating two facts about incarceration rates doesn't show this. We were number 1 long before prisons were privatized. You've made some serious flaws in logic there. More library time and less internet time for you.
Basically, what that does is protect the private business if the government decides it wants to build another prison or if a law passes decriminalizing marijuana etc. There have been fairly major prisoner releases in the past. It's a guarantee they will be PAID for that minimum occupancy level whether the prison is that full or not.
This isn't just done for prisons, there are clauses like this in the contract the city of Chicago signed when they privatized their parking meters. There are profit guarantees for private utilities too.
Now, that's the "nicest" interpretation one can take...the worst would be the big prison for profit theme which please note I'm not saying doesn't exist. I personally feel the truth lies somewhere in-between and ABSOLUTELY varies by state.
I definitely DO NOT support the incarceration of people for relatively minor non-violent offenses like having a bag of weed.
There's no collusion here to lock up more people. Stating two facts about incarceration rates doesn't show this. We were number 1 long before prisons were privatized. You've made some serious flaws in logic there. More library time and less internet time for you.
Whether there is a connection this is the wrong way to do business. The government should not be promising X amount of bodies. If they want to privatize the prisons you put it out for bid. If a company can crunch the numbers and see a profit, great, business is not suppose to be without any risk.
If not, then it doesn't happen. All the same, it's not just private prisons that do this. Many local jails are paid by the states on a per person basis and it's easier to meet payroll with a full jail than a half full one.
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