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Only because as a society we have decided that in order to work fulltime requires 40hrs a week or something close to for hours a week. This can be changed.
Let's say you own a business. Are you going to want to pay people the same for doing less work?
Last edited by Rick Roma; 09-27-2013 at 09:56 AM..
Well excuse me for being dumb, and working two jobs most of my life.
Wait, you previously argued that people will become creative, invent for example, if they only worked part time. Now your telling me that your own projections, aren't true? Shocking..
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How many minimum wage slaves do you know of where the company or corporation they work for provides them with any benefits?.
The discussion isn't that some companies don't provide benefits, the discussion is government ENTICING companies not to offer them, or more accurately, punishing those who do.
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By your measure, anyone working a forty hour week is entitled to benefits. Sorry, it don't work thataway.
Not at all. Why is it difficult for you to comprehend the difference between government punishing those who offer benefits, thus encouraging them to cut hours, thus making it worse for the employees? Why haven't you told us who will make up this difference in earnings when someone gets their hours cut by 25%?
Only because as a society we have decided that in order to work fulltime requires 40hrs a week or something close to for hours a week. This can be changed.
So you're suggesting people work less, and earn more in order to make up the difference.
Who exactly will buy these products if everyone is working part time? I guess we'll just have to off shore more jobs.. yep, more democratic stupidity.
Wait, you previously argued that people will become creative, invent for example, if they only worked part time. Now your telling me that your own projections, aren't true? Shocking..
The discussion isn't that some companies don't provide benefits, the discussion is government ENTICING companies not to offer them, or more accurately, punishing those who do.
Not at all. Why is it difficult for you to comprehend the difference between government punishing those who offer benefits, thus encouraging them to cut hours, thus making it worse for the employees? Why haven't you told us who will make up this difference in earnings when someone gets their hours cut by 25%?
Well, you did bring up benefits, so I expounded on that tidbit.
People will still follow their creativity, it's basically in all people, not just citizens of the USA. When you lose something, you try to make up for it one way or the other.
Now you're saying government is punishing people, do you feel that way about paying taxes you owe too?
Government is restricting business with their "30 hrs is full time" ruling.
Restricting business ends up hurting the worker.
Those full time folks with benefits are not impacted.
It was those part time workers doing more than 30 hours that are now working less hours and have no insurance.
Employers had to either pay for insurance for them or face $2K/person fines.
So employers now insure their workers hit a wall at 29 hours.
Why did the government do this ? Why didn't they just leave well enough alone ?
They already gave individuals the ability to sign up. Why did the government go to great lengths to get even more people uninsured and underpayed ?
Why did the government do this ? Why didn't they just leave well enough alone ?
They already gave individuals the ability to sign up. Why did the government go to great lengths to get even more people uninsured and underpayed ?
Because they are very good at finding something that, in their opinion, needs improvement... and then proceeding to exacerbate it or outright destroy it. Nothing new there. (this is of course a best case scenario, assuming no conspiracy on their part)
Well, you did bring up benefits, so I expounded on that tidbit.
Obamacare, is supposed to be a benefit, isnt it?
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People will still follow their creativity, it's basically in all people, not just citizens of the USA. When you lose something, you try to make up for it one way or the other.
Once again, that isnt the point, the point is governent making it harder on those who cant make ends meet at 40 hours a week.. The current economic situation the nation is in, proves you are wrong..
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Now you're saying government is punishing people, do you feel that way about paying taxes you owe too?
I havent paid federal income taxes in 13 years.. but then I have a choice, most americans dont..
Unions pretty much dictated the 40 hour work week. Robber baron tyrants like Andrew Carnegie and Henry Frick demanded long work days/weeks and very low pay, unions negotiated for shorter hours and higher pay.
Curious how the people behind the corruption and tyranny can switch places, isn't it?
Let's say you own a business. Are you going to want to pay people the same for doing less work?
Let's not say I own a business because I don't.
My only point is that owners, should experiment more with schedules and working hours.
What if it is found that workers in some industries produce more over the course of a year if they work only 28 hours a week which is four 7 hour workdays? Who knows if everyone is working the 40hr grind because that is what everyone else is doing?
My point is this we don't know if working 40hrs a week is getting the most out of your workforce for all industries at all times, you might be actually be paying them more to produce less because of those hours.
I work in a refinery which is a 24hr 7 day a week industry, lots of over time.
I'd love schedules that focused on reducing our hours a week. And seeing how that impacts worker productivity.
This idea that 40hrs is this thing that can't be altered or questioned makes no sense to me.
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