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On the one hand, he's the nominal leader of a nation where conservative ayatollahs really call the shots, and which has a history of deception in its dealings with the world on nuclear issues. Is this "charm offensive" really just a Trojan horse aimed at soothing a gullible West while Iran continues to build a nuclear weapon?
Or is he really a sincere reformer who wants to normalize relations with the US and lift the burden of sanctions under which his people have been suffering?
Incidentally, it seems that although many in Iran are welcoming his detente with the US, not everyone is.
LOL at this point I am more worried about whether I can trust my own government. I can't. I have never questioned the actions of this government as much as I do until now. We cannot be trusted. It is sad. But it is true. We shoved our noses in Iran's business in 1953 all in the name of greed. This whole thing with Iran is all of our fault. Not theirs.
Well, according to the dictates of the Quran/Koran; trust might be dangerous as it suggests it is completely acceptable and laudable for Muslims to lie and falsely claim friendship to gain trust, put your enemy off his guard and then either demand his conversion and subjugation to Islam or obliterate him.
Given those teachings what do you think would be prudent?
.... while Iran continues to build a nuclear weapon?
What kind of nuclear weapon?
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Originally Posted by pch1013
Or is he really a sincere reformer who wants to normalize relations with the US and lift the burden of sanctions under which his people have been suffering?
Normalize?
Well, uh, normally in US-Iran relations, the US engineered coups to install puppet-dictators, spent lots of tax-payer money organizing, training, arming, equipping and advising the SAVAK (the secret police) who together with the US and the puppet-dictator, deprived Iranians of rights that you cherish, such as free speech, assembly, press, protection from warrant-less searches and seizures, trials by impartial judges and juries, many other legal protections, and such.
Aside from that, the US stole oil and oil profits from Iran, plus sold Iran $Billions in military equipment that Iran did not need, like destroyers, and F-4 Phantom IIs, and F-5E Tiger IIs, and F-14 Tomcats, and HAWK air defense missile systems, not to mention a variety of personal and crew-served weapons, plus indirect and direct artillery, and vehicles.
Um, I'm thinking the majority of Iranians have no desire for "normalization."
On a more positive note, the US sank all of the destroyers it sold to Iran in 1987 near the end of the Iraq-Iran War instigated by the US, in an attempt to prevent Iran from rolling over Iraqi units.
Get it?
Those destroyers have the SPS-29C air search radar (theoretical range ~135 miles) and they can detect Iraqi aircraft and then shoot them down with the RIM-66s.
Plus, the destroyers can fire the 127mm guns as artillery.
The destroyers cruise along the coast of the Persian Gulf in the Basra/Delta Region to screen, while Iranian army units advance along the coast.
Right?
You all need to have more interesting lives.
Remember this....
10-09-2011, 10:41 PM
[quote=Mircea;21220977]I had a chance to go to Iraq as a military advisor in 1984 during the Iraq-Iran War, but went to Egypt to train troops instead. In hindsight, I probably should have gone to Iraq.
Washington is apparently ready to punish Syria for using poison gas, but a generation ago the calculus was different
By Harold Maass | August 26, 2013 The U.S.'s role in the Iraq-Iran war was greater than previously believed.
Near the end of Iraq's war with Iran 25 years ago, the U.S., using satellite imagery, warned Iraq that Iranian troops were moving to exploit a hole in its defenses, according to Foreign Policy, citing recently declassified Central Intelligence Agency documents and interviews with former intelligence officials. U.S. officials shared the information with Iraq even though they knew that Saddam Hussein's military was likely to respond by attacking with the lethal nerve agent sarin and other chemical weapons — and he did, killing thousands.
I think maybe you might want to define "normalize."
And, why no, Iran still doesn't have a nuclear weapons program.
Any Iranian cleric, or any politician around the world is not to be trusted.
fixed it.
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