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Old 10-04-2013, 02:56 AM
 
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first off the republicans DID win elections, thats why they control the house right now. and their mandate for winning those elections was to repeal obamacare, remember that is the platform they ran on.

second, the republicans put up a bill that funded everything in the government, except obamacare, and the senate rejected the bill. so the republicans sent a bill that had funding for obamacare, just that they want the individual mandate pushed back one year, just like what obama did for big business, and yet harry reid tabled the bill and wont even put it up for debate let alone a vote. so who is shutting down the government again? it certainly sounds like the republicans tried to keep things open.

third as for the republican alternative plans, try googling republican health care plans and read what comes up. you might learn something.
Good explanation. Unfortunately the liberals are on board with Obama and Reid who wants everything or nothing at all. They won't even push the mandate back a year to work out the kinks and would rather shut the government down. They know the liberal media will fight their battle with false information and spin for public opinion. That's why Obama is acting all smirky and arrogant on the campaign trail.

 
Old 10-04-2013, 02:56 AM
 
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The Republicans. You can't use a CR to push some agenda through.
Didnt the Democrats push an agenda with Obamacare? Despite it being unconstitutional to pass a tax increase in the Senate before the House?

how can people demanding the Constitution be followed, be considered a "taliban" but those who broke constitutional law in order to get their agenda passed, not be?
 
Old 10-04-2013, 02:59 AM
 
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Didnt the Democrats push an agenda with Obamacare? Despite it being unconstitutional to pass a tax increase in the Senate before the House?
Oh yea, I remember that and they thought they would get away with it. The democrats thought ALL Americans didn't understand how government is supposed to work. Unfortunately for Democrats some of us do.
 
Old 10-04-2013, 03:01 AM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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The fact that anyone in this country would be ok with that is a sad sign.
 
Old 10-04-2013, 03:05 AM
 
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Obama's plan: Induce as much pain to the American people so people will ratchet up the pressure on republicans. It's sequestration all over again.
 
Old 10-04-2013, 03:21 AM
 
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The National Park Service has ordered the closure of a Virginia park that sits on federal land, even though the government provides no resources for its maintenance or operation.
The Claude Moore Colonial Farm announced on Wednesday that NPS has ordered it to suspend operations until Congress agrees to a deal to fund the federal government.


Park Service Orders Closure of Park that Receives No Federal Funding | Washington Free Beacon
The sad thing is the obama administration is to darn stupid to realize this is not one of the funded parks...
 
Old 10-04-2013, 03:25 AM
 
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I wonder if people who own cabins through the lease program on gov land will have access to them?
 
Old 10-04-2013, 03:45 AM
 
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Obama's plan: Induce as much pain to the American people so people will ratchet up the pressure on republicans. It's sequestration all over again.
Exactly. AFN (Armed Forces Network) receives it's programming free, but they have eliminated all sports and entertainment from TV just to upset the soldiers. Inflict maximum pain and get maximum media exposure on the pain. What a guy.
 
Old 10-04-2013, 03:46 AM
 
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The sad thing is the obama administration is to darn stupid to realize this is not one of the funded parks...
It's not stupidity, it's intentional.
 
Old 10-04-2013, 03:49 AM
 
Location: Canada
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Exactly. AFN (Armed Forces Network) receives it's programming free, but they have eliminated all sports and entertainment from TV just to upset the soldiers. Inflict maximum pain and get maximum media exposure on the pain. What a guy.
This is his strategy. Shut down inconsequential things that will annoy the most people. Meanwhile, the war machine and national security police state apparatus rages on apace.
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