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Old 10-08-2013, 01:17 PM
 
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American Taliban understands who the extortionists are.
Whats it like to not be able to come up with original words that you have to basicly repeat what you hear other say, even if its so patheticaly dumb and childish?

Do they have cooties also?

 
Old 10-08-2013, 01:18 PM
 
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The majority of Americans do not want to defund The ACA and understand that it is the law and being implemented, so WTH are you talking about?

New Poll: Only One-Third Of Americans Support Repealing, Defunding Or Delaying Obamacare - Forbes
We dont govern by polls, how many times do you need to be told that stupid polls in regards to nations policies are irrelevant.. you should know that because if we did, Obamacare wouldnt be the law of the land.. would it?

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Old 10-08-2013, 01:21 PM
 
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This administration will NOT negotiate with republicans concerning the Continuing Resolution or the Debt ceiling. Congress needs to do it's job and pass the CR and raise the debt ceiling to pay for the items congress has already funded. This Administration will be happy to negotiate a balanced budget, modifying the ACA, overhauling entitlements or any other issue the republicans want to negotiate, independently of the Debt Ceiling or CR.

The full faith and credit of the United States of America is not subject to negotiation.

End of discussion.
But the Senate has to negotiate or they are not doing their job. You can't say you will not negotiate. The Senate has to negotiate. That's the procedure. Obama can't act like a dictator. He has to follow procedure.
 
Old 10-08-2013, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Because it's been in the works for 4 years. .
yet its not realy for prime time


you would think, with the glorious government that 4 years they would have everything set up...there would not be a need for deferment/waver/exemptions....there would be a web site ready to handle the millions (since for years they were using the numbers of 20,30,45 million without insurnace)

it was a poorly written bill, and its a bad law....yes something might be needed, but he liberals never use their brains, only their heart, and then they write laws that screw the middleclass
 
Old 10-08-2013, 01:23 PM
 
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This reminds me of some of my coworkers this time last year. They would go on and on about skewed polls and some even searched out polls showing Romney winning. Then November 7th came and shock settled in.
 
Old 10-08-2013, 01:29 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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there's a clean CR awaiting a House vote. One that the Senate and the President have both advocated for.
Well then elect more Democrats to the House. Problem solved.

Just so you know, though, THIS is why that WON'T happen in 2014...
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Shutdown? What shutdown? Obama and the Dems have it open for illegal aliens...

http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/def...94e06b416c.jpg



Obama and the Democrats open National Mall to illegal Aliens

Can't Obama and the Dems open it for everyone else, too? Or do only illegal aliens get preference?
Americans are becoming increasingly angry at Obama and the Dems for crap like that. AND this:

The Outer Banks Voice - Shutdown leaves Cape Hatteras fishermen high and dry

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Old 10-08-2013, 01:29 PM
 
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Obama can't circumvent the House. He can't argue his way out of this. Calling people names. Extremists? The House wants to negotiate.
 
Old 10-08-2013, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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This reminds me of some of my coworkers this time last year. They would go on and on about skewed polls and some even searched out polls showing Romney winning. Then November 7th came and shock settled in.
Kinda of sad really how many seem to live in the same universe as this guy:

Daily Kos: Rep. Markwayne Mullin lives in a different reality than the rest of us
 
Old 10-08-2013, 01:33 PM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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Obama can't circumvent the House. He can't argue his way out of this. Calling people names. Extremists? The House wants to negotiate.
The President, and the nation ... are confronted by extortionists, anarchists and the American Taliban. Our government shouldn't be negotiating with terrorists, foreign or domestic. It's time for the House to elect a new Speaker, and for the House to get about the business of the people.


Kate Smith introduces God Bless America - YouTube
 
Old 10-08-2013, 01:34 PM
 
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yet its not realy for prime time


you would think, with the glorious government that 4 years they would have everything set up...there would not be a need for deferment/waver/exemptions....there would be a web site ready to handle the millions (since for years they were using the numbers of 20,30,45 million without insurnace)

it was a poorly written bill, and its a bad law....yes something might be needed, but he liberals never use their brains, only their heart, and then they write laws that screw the middleclass
Absolutely. I agree with you, there is no excuse for the problems with the exchanges. I've never liked the ACA to begin with, I didn't think it was well-written, nor well-thought out. The exchanges seem to be similar in that the software doesn't seem to have been well-written, nor well-thought out.

And yet, after four years, insurance companies have already raised premiums, have already opted out of various segments of the insurance market, and employers have already cancelled their insurance coverage and sent employees to look for insurance elsewhere. You cannot fix what's already happened. The exchanges can be fixed and made to run. The insurance companies are already parts of those exchanges. People are already shopping for insurance. To reverse course now would be an even worse disaster. Look at it this way, the government passed a law forcing insurance companies and employers down a particular path. But as the insurance companies and employers went down that path, they came to bridges and tunnels (the regulations) that they had to pass through. As they passed, they set fire to the bridges and exploded the tunnels. They can't go back and make things just as they were before. Going back will be harder than going forward at this point.
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