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Old 10-02-2013, 06:05 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Winter_Sucks View Post
I thought that Obamacare had taxes included in the bill?
Clearly not enough..

GAO Report: Obamacare Adds $6.2 Trillion to Long-Term Deficit | National Review Online

See most of us adults out here in the real world, understand that the tax cuts (which you whine about non stop) increased revenues, and entitlements, cant be paid for, the same crap you support, while whining about deficits...

 
Old 10-02-2013, 06:12 AM
 
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Clearly not enough..

GAO Report: Obamacare Adds $6.2 Trillion to Long-Term Deficit | National Review Online

See most of us adults out here in the real world, understand that the tax cuts (which you whine about non stop) increased revenues, and entitlements, cant be paid for, the same crap you support, while whining about deficits...
Here's some counter balance to the worst case scenario for Obamacare that is the gospel in the conservative alternative reality.

PolitiFact Virginia | Morgan Griffith says GAO estimates Obamacare will add $6.2 trillion to long-term deficits
 
Old 10-02-2013, 06:14 AM
 
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Actually, the 2010 election gave the majority of the House to the GOP. They lost seats in 2012 but not enough to turn the House. House Democrats won a plurality nation-wide by over 1.4 million more votes but the Republicans were able to retain a 17-seat majority due in part to their gerrymandering in the congressional redistricting process following the 2010 United States Census.
yea yea yeah.. the latest left wing talking points.. gerrymandering.... Its like listening to the same people over, and over, crying because mommy wont let them have their candy today...
 
Old 10-02-2013, 06:17 AM
 
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Here's some counter balance to the worst case scenario for Obamacare that is the gospel in the conservative alternative reality.

PolitiFact Virginia | Morgan Griffith says GAO estimates Obamacare will add $6.2 trillion to long-term deficits
There is absolutely NOTHING in Obamacare to create "savings"..

Why dont you cite for me ONE "entitlement" which has ever came in with "rosy" results? Medicare costs 10x what it was predicted to cost, Social Security is broke, etc

Maybe you can list one for me...
 
Old 10-02-2013, 06:18 AM
 
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Talking points without context. The numbers of the unemployed have not increased.

Wages have been dropping for workers for well before his presidency.

I don't know if personal wealth is lower.

Objectively the number of citizens on food stamps is a response to the recession and low wages when they do become employed.

The was somewhat of a homeownership bubble before the crash. So, it is not really rational to compare a bubble level of homeownership because that isn't sustainable.

Also can you add? President Obama was sworn in January 20something 2009. That is not six years. SMH.
Wow- I can see how Obama was re-elected

1. The number of citizens unemployed has increased

Why Long-Term Unemployment Has Doubled Under President Obama - Forbes

2. Incomes have fallen under Obama- the worst percentage decline of any president since FDR

WSJ: Obama Worst President for Middle Class 'in Modern Times'

3. Individual wealth (except for the 1%) has fallen under Obama

A Rise in Wealth for the Wealthy; Declines for the Lower 93% | Pew Social & Demographic Trends

4. Yes- food stamp roles have increased- thankfully you actually realize that. Do well to do citizens with good jobs go on foodstamps?

5. Home ownership is at an 18 year low

American dream dying under Obama?


It is easy to see how libs support Obama- they simply ignore reality and continue to worship at his altar, despite horrible performance!
 
Old 10-02-2013, 06:25 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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Yes, I know your pain. The Dems are looking pretty damn good right now and it hurts you Pubs that your party is a failure and in a free fall. I can see why you're speechless, but when Republicans are not happy, the country does better.

Kudos to the Dems and President Obama for maintaining their superior position.

I am no fan of Republicans, but quite frankly Obamacare is a failure, and I don't blame them for not compromising with the dictator in chief and his "my way or the highway" attitude. Furthermore, whether you like it or not this isn't the Soviet Union where there is a one party rule.
 
Old 10-02-2013, 06:30 AM
 
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It's great as long as your tap water isn't catching on fire as it leaves the faucet.
All of those places have documented historical occurrences of methane in the water. There is a place in NY called Burning Springs and that goes back to what the Native Americans called it. Here's the director of gasland admitting to knowing about it before making his fakeumentary but he felt it was "irrelevant".



Gasland director hides full facts - YouTube
 
Old 10-02-2013, 06:37 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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Yes, conservatives when it comes to public policy are insane. And have been getting crazier every year. The election of President Obama is an existential threat to conservatives. They are lost and adrift when it comes to public policy.

Hmmmm???? Fiscal responsibility, and cutting wasteful spending when this country is in debt up to our f***n' eyeballs is insane? Lefties truly are living in la-la land!
 
Old 10-02-2013, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Clearly not enough..

GAO Report: Obamacare Adds $6.2 Trillion to Long-Term Deficit | National Review Online

See most of us adults out here in the real world, understand that the tax cuts (which you whine about non stop) increased revenues, and entitlements, cant be paid for, the same crap you support, while whining about deficits...
Please find the $6.2 trillion figure in the GAO report. You will be looking forever since that number is fabricated.

"We did not make such an estimate," said Susan Irving, a GAO analyst who co-authored report.
 
Old 10-02-2013, 06:39 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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The Pentagon ordered stuff for about $5 billion on the eve of the shutdown, including fitness and TV studios
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