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Old 10-01-2013, 03:41 PM
 
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Of course not one registered republican will ever be signing up on the exchanges. Right?

hardy har har
They were probably the first million. It will be fun to watch the bat crap crazies of the right wing talk about repealing it at election time.

 
Old 10-01-2013, 03:41 PM
 
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Funny, last I head, you cons LOVE the idea of leaving the nation's health in the hands of employers. Or, well, if you actually cared enough about people to actually want someone to be responsible for it ...
The next thing you'll be demanding is that mothers give you their breast milk.
 
Old 10-01-2013, 03:42 PM
 
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Medicare was established almost 50 years ago. Since inception, it needed a subsidy from general revenues/deficit spending. The first Medicare card was issued to former president Truman who had not paid a dime into it and had no financial hardship. Hundreds of millions followed.

Payroll taxes earmarked for Medicare were never pegged to the cost of Medicare, let alone inflation.

Medicare part D, prescription drug, ( A Republican initiative) became law in 2003, just 7 years before the first baby boomers began to turn 65 at a rate of 10,000 a day. No cut to government spending offset the new benefit. No increase in payroll taxes offset the benefit. Congress rewarded the Big Pharma lobby and refused to allow Medicare to negotiate the price of prescription medications. Instead, it's all deficit spending.

All along, Congress has put their own best interests before those of the country.
Exactly.
And the same will happen with Medicaid.
 
Old 10-01-2013, 03:43 PM
 
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Yes.
No. Unless she makes over $200k and has investment income.
 
Old 10-01-2013, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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The butt hurt is STRONG with the GOP. This is their worst nightmare, high demand for something they've worked tirelessly to block.

In 2014, we will flush them down the toilet...
Yeah it is.

What this clearly shows is that people really do want to take responsibility for their own lives.
If people were the freeloaders that the GOP, and the posters in this thread in particular, try to paint them, why bother signing up? Why not just leave everything to chance and keep utilizing the ER with no plan to pay?

Surely the measly $95.00 fine cannot be enough to motivate people who don't care how much things cost or how they get paid for to actually subject themselves to all sorts of government intrusion in their lives just for the opportunity to get health insurance.

We're talking about people who don't know what personal responsibility means, right?

Why on earth would they do something to keep themselves and their children healthy, stave off bankruptcy, free themselves from bad employers...


Whoever will they use for scapegoats now?
 
Old 10-01-2013, 03:44 PM
 
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No. Unless she makes over $200k and has investment income.
WRONG.. Everyone pays the taxes on it..

Once again, you display you support something you dont even know what it is...
 
Old 10-01-2013, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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So basically I will end up footing their bills essentially?
If you have health insurance, you are already footing the bills of those who do not.

Have been for years.
 
Old 10-01-2013, 03:45 PM
 
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No. Unless she makes over $200k and has investment income.
Wrong.
If she pays full price for insurance, she is still subsidizing. Along with other taxes.
 
Old 10-01-2013, 03:46 PM
 
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Yeah it is.

What this clearly shows is that people really do want to take responsibility for their own lives.
If people were the freeloaders that the GOP, and the posters in this thread in particular, try to paint them, why bother signing up? Why not just leave everything to chance and keep utilizing the ER with no plan to pay?

Surely the measly $95.00 fine cannot be enough to motivate people who don't care how much things cost or how they get paid for to actually subject themselves to all sorts of government intrusion in their lives just for the opportunity to get health insurance.

We're talking about people who don't know what personal responsibility means, right?

Why on earth would they do something to keep themselves and their children healthy, stave off bankruptcy, free themselves from bad employers...


Whoever will they use for scapegoats now?
Could it be that "MY INSURANCE COMPANY JUST NOTIFIED ME THAT MY INSURANCE WILL BE TERMINATED?"

ALTHOUGH I PAY, ALTHOUGH I WANTED TO KEEP MY INSURANCE
 
Old 10-01-2013, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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OP - that doesn't prove popularity for Obamacare.

Most Americans do not want Obamacare.

However, most Americans aren't willing to willfully break a federal law in protest - also knows as civil disobedience.

Your argument comes down to this - somebody points a gun at your head - and you give them all your money.

That must mean that you support armed robbery.
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