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Old 10-03-2013, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Not at all. I don't consider stealing Peters hard earned income and giving it to Paul for doing absolutely nothing to be compassion.

If anything liberal ideology is geared towards keeping down those who are down and treating them as dependent, helpless wretches.

 
Old 10-03-2013, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Not at all. I don't consider stealing Peters hard earned income and giving it to Paul for doing absolutely nothing to be compassion.

If anything liberal ideology is geared towards keeping down those who are down and treating them as dependent, helpless wretches.
^^This sums it up in a nutshell.^^
 
Old 10-03-2013, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Great Falls, Montana
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Since liberal ideology is geared to help the unfortunate, does it mean liberals themselves are more compassionate?
Liberals are only really compassionate when there is something to be gained from it

That Is All
 
Old 10-03-2013, 10:19 PM
 
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aaahhh, the myth of liberal compassion. Liberals continue to masquerade as exclusive proprietors of compassion. Obama’s “fundamental transformation” of America is America’s decline and destruction in the name of compassion and fairness.

A remedy is work requirements in welfare programs. We’ve done it, and it worked. But Obama didn’t like it and reversed it because of his radicalized worldview, a narrow-minded ideology for individual growth through redistribution. Is it any wonder he has given us perpetual economic malaise?

 
Old 10-03-2013, 10:21 PM
 
Location: WY
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Since liberal ideology is geared to help the unfortunate, does it mean liberals themselves are more compassionate?
Absolutely.

Cons hate everybody. We hate the poor. Women. Old people. Young people. Gay people. Handicapped people. Black people and brown people and anybody else who doesn't look like us. You know.......white people. We want to keep women bare foot and pregnant, with-hold birth control so that they have umpteen babies, and invade their uteri with probing instruments. Because we think that conservative women are stupid and we think that since con women are stupid, all women are stupid. And incapable of making their own decisions, fending for themselves financially, or taking responsibility for their own destinies.

We like war. Lots of wars. Wars anytime - anywhere. As long as there is war, we're happy. Because we like guns and like to shoot people. And of course, we like to make the corporations that profit from war very very rich. Because we like rich people and hate poor people (ref. paragraph 1).

We hate Mexicans. We don't want them here, don't want their babies here, and want to break up families. Because we don't care about the misfortune of others, and the desire of Mexicans who illegally cross the border to improve their lives is of no concern to us. Because we hate Mexicans.

We believe in God and therefore know nothing of science. We believe in personal responsibility and therefore hate single mothers. We believe in a hand up and not a hand out, and therefore hate anyone and everyone on welfare. We believe in small government and therefore hate all government. We believe in accountablity from our elected officials and don't get tingles up our legs and are therefore nazis and terrorists and astro turfers. We dislike Obama's policies and are therefore racist. We believe in the 2A and are therefore gun nuts who want to see babies mowed down in school classrooms.

Compassion? Screw compassion.
 
Old 10-03-2013, 10:26 PM
 
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How so? Most of the things they are passionate about are things that don't make anyone rich, but improve the quality of life for million of humans and nonhumans. Protecting habitat for rare plants and rodents. Providing health care for the infirm and indigent. Ensuring that inner cities have decent schools. Making sure our air and water are not toxic. All are primarily liberal initiatives. That is not to say that conservatives don't care about these things, but they rarely initiate such efforts, and more often than not oppose them.
It still serves that individuals value system. The problem is that many liberals "compassion" stems from naivete...

Ensuring inner cities have decent schools? Look at core curriculum..you call that insurance? Bringing everybody else down, at the expense of bringing a bunch up,is not altruistic...it's preferential. The massive failure of standardized testing has proven these types of approaches do not work.

Sure, Liberals say all the right things...and their values are making people rich..a more concentrated handful of suits rich..

We have a serious cancer for government. And any Liberal who thinks that they can vote their ideal into office and that ideal will translate in real world terms...is foolish. Many don't consider the ones who will suffer from what they believe to be right. That isn't altruistic. It's selfish.

In fact, one shouldn't rely on the government to facilitate their so-called compassion. That is just silly... Your "compassion" is being spent by the higher ups in the way THEY see best fit...not you. Rely on your own day-to-day actions to define your integrity...not a marginalized vote.
 
Old 10-03-2013, 10:33 PM
 
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The problem is that many liberals "compassion" stems from naivete...

Ensuring inner cities have decent schools? Look at core curriculum..you call that insurance? Bringing everybody else down, at the expense of bringing a bunch up,is not altruistic...it's preferential. The massive failure of standardized testing has proven these types of approaches do not work.

Sure, Liberals say all the right things...and their values are making people rich..a more concentrated handful of suits rich..

And any Liberal who thinks that they can vote their ideal into office and that ideal will translate in real world terms...is foolish. Many don't consider the ones who will suffer from what they believe to be right. That isn't altruistic. It's selfish.

In fact, one shouldn't rely on the government to facilitate their so-called compassion. That is just silly... Your "compassion" is being spent by the higher ups in the way THEY see best fit...not you. Rely on your own day-to-day actions to define your integrity...not a marginalized vote.
Good post
 
Old 10-03-2013, 10:36 PM
 
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Anyone who claims to be a liberal with compassion is actually thinking how they will be benefiting. They are selfish.
 
Old 10-03-2013, 10:38 PM
 
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I don't remember where I saw this 'Reason to dislike Liberals' list, but I copied and pasted it awhile ago. Many of these points fit useless liberals to a T.

1) Only liberals would be cruel enough to pick on kids running lemonade stands with a permit, children putting on Christmas plays at school and the Boy Scouts.

2) Because the closest thing to Sodom and Gomorrah in the modern world is San Francisco and Berkeley.

3) Whether you're talking about cop killers, terrorists, radical Islamist's or dictators, all you have to do is say, "I hate America," and liberals start to sympathize with you.

4) Liberals are actually bothered by people who do love America. On the rare occasion when you do see a liberal waving a flag, look for a camera.

5) The same people who voted Jimmy Carter and Barack Obama into office think they're smarter than tradition, the Founding Fathers and God Himself.

6) Liberals might not want to admit it, but the world would have been a better place if Mary Jo Kopechne had crawled up out of that car instead of Ted Kennedy.

7) Only an ass could like Bill Maher, Alan Grayson or Sheila Jackson Lee.

8) Liberals believe in taking money from people who earn it, handing it out as bribes in order to get more power and then using that power to hurt the people that are giving them money.

9) The same liberal who'll laugh at a rape joke about Sarah Palin and then attack Michele Bachmann's family will then turn around and accuse someone else of being sexist for respectfully noting that a woman is attractive.

10) Liberals view hooking people on welfare and food stamps as a core part of their election strategy, which is terrible for the country, shows they have no character and requires more than a little hatred for poor people.

11) The dumbest, most close-minded and mean spirited people in all of politics are inevitably liberals who are convinced they're brilliant, open-minded and compassionate because they call themselves liberals.

12) A policy that makes liberals feel superior and caring that doesn't work and wastes billions is considered a smashing success because they genuinely DON'T CARE WHETHER THEIR POLICIES ACTUALLY HELP PEOPLE OR NOT.

13) The same liberal who pretends to be angry about Susan Smith or Casey Anthony will then turn around and give the thumbs up to women who do the same thing to their children via abortion.

14) There's a reason why the average home-schooled kid gets a better education than he would in a public school run by liberals. It's because the kid's parents are interested in educating him while his liberal teachers view public schools as just another way to indoctrinate children.

15) Noam Chomsky is an America-hating creep and to think of him as some kind of genius, you have to both despise our country enough to suspend your disbelief and be largely ignorant of world history.

16) Anyone whose first reaction after a terrorist attack is, "Why do they hate us?" is just an intolerable douche.

17) Liberals talk up Hillary Clinton as the most prominent and important female politician in America; yet her entire political career is based on the fact that she married Bill Clinton. That's actually kind of pathetic.

18) Liberals have been big supporters of slavery, Indian massacres, the KKK, eugenics, fascism, communism and Jim Crow laws. Then, down the road, after liberals finally join everyone else, they try to claim that conservatives still support all the practices that we fought liberals on from the beginning.

19) Liberals think black Americans are inferior to whites, which is why the worst, most crime-ridden places to live in America are inevitably run by liberals. That's acceptable to liberals because they don't think black Americans deserve any better.

20) A liberal is more likely to support a man who murders a cop like Mumia Abu Jamal than cops who want to regularly patrol a bad neighborhood in force to keep the criminals from terrorizing the innocent people who live there.

21) The average middle aged Tea Partier who's going to rallies, talking about the Constitution and calling for reduced spending cares more about "the children" than 99% of the liberals out there who demand that we support one stupid program after the other "for the children."

22) You have to be a horrible human being to be okay with terrorists like Bill Ayers teaching kids at a college.

23) Because liberals are unable to ever admit they're wrong, they systematically ruin and destroy everything they become involved with and then either point the finger elsewhere or demand even more government involvement to fix the problems they created.

24) Detroit – and, yes, liberals did that.

25) Even "liberal Christians" are generally supportive of other liberals who attack Christianity, which is why "liberal Christians" is in quotes.
 
Old 10-03-2013, 10:40 PM
 
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Since liberal ideology is geared to help the unfortunate, does it mean liberals themselves are more compassionate?
Why does compassion need to be politized. It's who we are as a person. Are we compassionate or not. It has nothing to do with political affiliation.
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