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Old 10-16-2013, 06:20 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Their behavior is just infuriating! Clearly, SELF-INTEREST exceeds any other interest
You are referring to the Democrats here, right?

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.... their self-interest in getting re-elected. Hopefully every single one of them will lose in the next election and they will then get what they deserve....no more cushy political job. Certainly at some point, these old Tea Party folks will pass on of old age. Unfortunately, that won't happen before Oct. 17th.
You are clueless. There are a lot of young people involved in the Tea Party, and the Tea Party continues to grow.

The Tea Party has this funny ability to get Republicans elected to office. Strange, I know.
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Old 10-16-2013, 06:25 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Newsflash: having the majority of the House does not give you a mandate to get rid of Obamacare.
News Flash ... The House doesn't have to fund any bill it believes is not good Americans, or the well being [general welfare in the Constitution] of the Republic. They have every right to defund ObamaCare.
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Old 10-16-2013, 07:06 AM
 
Location: North America
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They like to call Obama the dictator, but think about it:

ACA was passed legally, per the Constitutional process, through the House, Senate, and White House. And it withstood Supreme Court review.

Boehner and his buddies have not mustered the electoral support to pass anything through the legislative process. They are a minority and are using threats against our livelihoods to try to dictate what they want.

And we know that most Americans strongly disapprove of what they are doing, even more than they disapprove of Obama and the Democrats, so they are clearly not interested in representing the "will of the people."

So who's the one trying to be the dictator: the one who went through the Constitutional process and achieve a valid result, or the one unilaterally demanding that the majority do certain things under the threat of national economic recession?

Would-be dictators? Leave out the would-be.
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Old 10-16-2013, 07:08 AM
 
Location: North America
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News Flash ... The House doesn't have to fund any bill it believes is not good Americans, or the well being [general welfare in the Constitution] of the Republic. They have every right to defund ObamaCare.

News flash, the GOP's "reluctance" to pass anything has nada to do with what's good for the American People, and everything to do with obstructionism. They had 6.5 years to come up with a HC plan and did nothing.

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Old 10-16-2013, 07:31 AM
 
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News flash, the GOP's "reluctance" to pass anything has nada to do with what's good for the American Perople, and everything to do with obstructionism. They had 6.5 years to come up with a HC plan and did nothing.
There is no need for a federal "health care plan".

Why you'd want Congress to PLAN your needs is beyond any rational understanding.
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Old 10-16-2013, 07:36 AM
 
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They like to call Obama the dictator, but think about it:

ACA was passed legally, per the Constitutional process, through the House, Senate, and White House. And it withstood Supreme Court review.

Boehner and his buddies have not mustered the electoral support to pass anything through the legislative process. They are a minority and are using threats against our livelihoods to try to dictate what they want.

And we know that most Americans strongly disapprove of what they are doing, even more than they disapprove of Obama and the Democrats, so they are clearly not interested in representing the "will of the people."

So who's the one trying to be the dictator: the one who went through the Constitutional process and achieve a valid result, or the one unilaterally demanding that the majority do certain things under the threat of national economic recession?
The Republicans are the majority in the House, so much for you making them out to be the minority.

Lets look at what the House asked for, that you think makes them out to be "dictators."

They asked to delay the personal mandate for a year. Wow, sounds like they are dictator wannabes to me. Actually asking for a one year delay before the IRS punishes the uninsured?

All tax laws start in the House, the house is trying to amend the personal mandate for a year, and make the president's desire to delay the employer mandate, and amendment to the law as well. That is "the Constitutional process." The president trying to modify tax laws all on his own, that would not be "the Constitutional process."
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Old 10-16-2013, 07:36 AM
 
Location: texas
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rubbish. the republicans were tasked with getting rid of obamacare otherwise they would not have been elected to office, and given majority control of the house. and since when is fighting bad law now a bad thing to do? obamcare is bad law in so many ways. it is unworkable and the democrats know it.
maybe so, but not very smart bunch...after more than 40 failed votes to repeal ACA, you would think they had the mental capacity to understand their failure.

there is a difference in being tasked with repealing ACA, and putting the nation's credit rating and economy into political chaos.

After this is all said and done...How have they made America a better country? How have they made us stronger?
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Old 10-16-2013, 07:40 AM
 
Location: North America
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There is no need for a federal "health care plan".

Why you'd want Congress to PLAN your needs is beyond any rational understanding.

They voted 40 times to repeal Obamacare knowing the Senate would never pass it. They put defunding Obama care into the spending bills knowing the Senate would never pass it.

Give me a freaking break.

This has nothing to do with the American people and everything to do with playing politics at the EXPENSE of the American people.

Boehner could put a clean spending bill in front of the House and it has enough votes to pass. He won't because he lacks the cojones to do so.
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Old 10-16-2013, 07:41 AM
 
Location: texas
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There is no need for a federal "health care plan".

Why you'd want Congress to PLAN your needs is beyond any rational understanding.
If you can't understand why the majority of Americans voted for their representation to initiate ACA, what does it matter?

You don't get it...thats ok. You have the choice, keep HC insurance, or dont.
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