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Old 10-07-2013, 06:15 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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again, it is harry reid that is screwing things up
Exactly. The bills are failing in the Democrat-controlled Senate.

The OP should be retitled: Chamber of Commerce tell Harry Reid and the Senate Democrats to knock it off
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Old 10-07-2013, 06:17 AM
 
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I do not know why the {D}s are not calling their reps too support the bill. They are supposedly the party of the people and the {R}s are supposedly the party of the corporations. Since the corporations and everyones brother was gave a waiver why not one for the people? Are the {D}s telling us it is fair for corporations to get a pass but not the people?
Seems so.
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Old 10-07-2013, 08:55 AM
 
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This statement makes clear that the Republicans aren't supportive of capitalism or of business in general, but really only care about power and fostering the interests of the very rich.
neither are democrats. as i said, ALL our elected officials are playing the political game, and they are ALL screwing the american people. to believe otherwise is ignorance.
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Old 10-07-2013, 08:57 AM
 
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I do not know why the {D}s are not calling their reps too support the bill. They are supposedly the party of the people and the {R}s are supposedly the party of the corporations. Since the corporations and everyones brother was gave a waiver why not one for the people? Are the {D}s telling us it is fair for corporations to get a pass but not the people?
Of course the politicians think its fair. They need the money and endorsements to keep their jobs. Once they have that, then they will lie to the people to keep their jobs.
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Old 10-07-2013, 05:02 PM
 
Location: USA
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So whats the problem? Ooh thats right.. Obama's spent it all... AGAIN..
The problem is the GOP is making the Chamber of Commerce and Wall Street very upset. I guess that's okay with you?
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Old 10-07-2013, 05:04 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t
pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here.’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better. I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America’s debt limit.â€

Barack Obama
March 2006
Bravo!!! This should be plastered everywhere!
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Old 10-07-2013, 05:06 PM
 
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President Bush was projected to have surpluses his entire Presidency and instead he had deficits his entire presidency.

You are making an argument based on a statement that you did not fully understand.
So? President Clinton claimed to have left office with a surplus! It was a lie.
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Old 10-07-2013, 05:08 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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again, it is harry reid that is screwing things up, the house sent the senate a bill that funded obamacare if the individual mandate was pushed off one year just like obama pushed the business mandate off. reid refuses to consider the bill in it entirety, and refuses to allow it to come up for a vote.

second the letter was addressed to ALL of congress, not just the republicans.
They (Deomcrats) don't want the public to realize that.
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Old 10-08-2013, 04:40 AM
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Location: Florida
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This statement makes clear that the Republicans aren't supportive of capitalism or of business in general
neither are democrats.
The point is that the Republicans often bombastically claim to be.

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as i said, ALL our elected officials are playing the political game, and they are ALL screwing the american people. to believe otherwise is ignorance.
The right-wing perspective is more transgressive in this regard, and has to be because by its very nature is favors fewer people at the expense of more people. "To believe otherwise is ignorance."
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Old 10-08-2013, 05:07 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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neither are democrats. as i said, ALL our elected officials are playing the political game, and they are ALL screwing the american people. to believe otherwise is ignorance.

A federal government shutdown, is not skrewing the American people as a whole, just the federal workers that get laid off and worry about getting paid.
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