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I hear a lot of passionate opposition to the plan, but I hear nothing about alternative proposals. That goes for this forum as well as the Republicans.
Do you really favor a status quo where you quickly lose access to healthcare if your employer fires you; where 50 million remain uninsured who we all pay top dollar for when they end up in the ER given no preventative care; where insurance companies can drop your coverage when you need it most; where costs have already been skyrocketing for a long time; and where we lead the advanced world in cost per capita and get mediocre quality of life results in return?
I'm open to something else, but I don't think "just go back to the way it was" is sustainable. So...what is that "something else?"
The problem is that this is not the kind of a market where each participant can just bear the full cost of their consumption by themselves; by its very nature, costs need to somehow be shared between the healthy and the sick. That is the essence of the insurance concept. You need some sort of a comprehensive solution, because everyone is in the healthcare market, whether they like it or not.
If Republicans offered a clear, comprehensive solution that addressed cost, quality, and coverage, I could perhaps get behind it. It seems that all they are implying is "we don't care who has health insurance; every man, woman, and child for him/herself. All we care is that there is no Obamacare."
ObamaCare can be replaced with a simple law that allows portability of health insurance for people that are between jobs, allows sale of insurance across state lines, and prohibits the practice of refusing to give health insurance, or dropping insurance to people with preexisting conditions.
There is no reason for all the heavy-handed federal government control that we see causing havoc with the ACA.
How about paying your own way. You want insurance? Buy it yourself?
Insurance is NOT the government's job.
The insurance I pay for has steadily gone up because it's having to pay for the uninsured via hospital overcharges to insurance. That is the unsustainable part the OP was refering to. ER visits costs taxpayers and the insured alot more than just going ahead and having a program in place that provides cheaper preventative care and heads off expensive ER visits.
Health care used to be affordable, and it wasn't that long ago.
Start by importing a million physicians (over say 10 years) and putting them on a track to citizenship if they work in a doc in a box for a certain number of years. Let those who can't afford insurance seek their non-emergency medical care there.
Keep importing more and more until the health care monopolies are killed dead.
Second, force all providers to state their prices in public and up front. Any provider not complying goes to jail.
I hear a lot of passionate opposition to the plan, but I hear nothing about alternative proposals. That goes for this forum as well as the Republicans.
Do you really favor a status quo where you quickly lose access to healthcare if your employer fires you; where 50 million remain uninsured who we all pay top dollar for when they end up in the ER given no preventative care; where insurance companies can drop your coverage when you need it most; where costs have already been skyrocketing for a long time; and where we lead the advanced world in cost per capita and get mediocre quality of life results in return?
I'm open to something else, but I don't think "just go back to the way it was" is sustainable. So...what is that "something else?"
The problem is that this is not the kind of a market where each participant can just bear the full cost of their consumption by themselves; by its very nature, costs need to somehow be shared between the healthy and the sick. That is the essence of the insurance concept. You need some sort of a comprehensive solution, because everyone is in the healthcare market, whether they like it or not.
If Republicans offered a clear, comprehensive solution that addressed cost, quality, and coverage, I could perhaps get behind it. It seems that all they are implying is "we don't care who has health insurance; every man, woman, and child for him/herself. All we care is that there is no Obamacare."
It's because you're not paying attention to the many, many conservative ideas.
I hear a lot of passionate opposition to the plan, but I hear nothing about alternative proposals. That goes for this forum as well as the Republicans.
Do you really favor a status quo where you quickly lose access to healthcare if your employer fires you; where 50 million remain uninsured who we all pay top dollar for when they end up in the ER given no preventative care; where insurance companies can drop your coverage when you need it most; where costs have already been skyrocketing for a long time; and where we lead the advanced world in cost per capita and get mediocre quality of life results in return?
I'm open to something else, but I don't think "just go back to the way it was" is sustainable. So...what is that "something else?"
The problem is that this is not the kind of a market where each participant can just bear the full cost of their consumption by themselves; by its very nature, costs need to somehow be shared between the healthy and the sick. That is the essence of the insurance concept. You need some sort of a comprehensive solution, because everyone is in the healthcare market, whether they like it or not.
If Republicans offered a clear, comprehensive solution that addressed cost, quality, and coverage, I could perhaps get behind it. It seems that all they are implying is "we don't care who has health insurance; every man, woman, and child for him/herself. All we care is that there is no Obamacare."
Those are not free to taxpayers who are picking up the tab for the uninsured. At least the uninsured would be paying in something with the ACA instead of nothing.
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