Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 01-28-2014, 04:26 AM
 
804 posts, read 616,942 times
Reputation: 156

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by simetime View Post
Wait a minute did'nt Gtown just post a "feel good" article about the police? Believe me if there were more of this type of thing going on they would post it just to get rid of the negative publicity
This thing? "Good cops" are quietly doing their tough jobs everyday. That's the nature of news, nobody wants to read about an airplane pilot flying every day, its boring. Let there be a mishap and the same pilot becomes a national story. Same with doctors, teachers etc etc.

 
Old 01-28-2014, 04:28 AM
 
Location: USA
13,255 posts, read 12,100,383 times
Reputation: 4228
Quote:
Originally Posted by risotto11 View Post
This thing? "Good cops" are quietly doing their tough jobs everyday. That's the nature of news, nobody wants to read about an airplane pilot flying every day, its boring. Let there be a mishap and the same pilot becomes a national story. Same with doctors, teachers etc etc.
I don't think you understand how many people's lives have been affected or ruined by the corrupt actions of Police. There's way more than a "few" bad apples. Hell, the freaking government is working with the largest cocaine smuggler South of the border.


Karma buddy. Karma. They reap what they sow.
 
Old 01-28-2014, 04:32 AM
 
804 posts, read 616,942 times
Reputation: 156
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gtownoe View Post
Yes that is racial profiling if they are stopped. And it is WRONG.
WRONG? Why don't you join the force and show everybody how to do it RIGHT. Quit standing on the sidelines but joining the fight. Lets see how you do it and how successful you'll be. Folks in the ghetto should be happy that the police even goes there instead of living them to themselves. Lets try it, lets pull cops from the ghettos and come back after a week and count the bodies.
 
Old 01-28-2014, 04:36 AM
 
Location: USA
13,255 posts, read 12,100,383 times
Reputation: 4228
Quote:
Originally Posted by risotto11 View Post
WRONG? Why don't you join the force and show everybody how to do it RIGHT. Quit standing on the sidelines but joining the fight. Lets see how you do it and how successful you'll be. Folks in the ghetto should be happy that the police even goes there instead of living them to themselves. Lets try it, lets pull cops from the ghettos and come back after a week and count the bodies.
Join the force? What force? The Force that violates people's rights on the daily and that has simply turned into a revenue fest? I'll pass.


How about you guys patrol the really dangerous areas and quit harassing the innocent.



"Folks in the ghetto" don't mess with the Police because they've been corrupt there for years.
 
Old 01-28-2014, 05:55 AM
 
Location: USA
13,255 posts, read 12,100,383 times
Reputation: 4228
Adding this to this particular thread so not to clog up the page with "cop threads."


» D.C. Police Misconduct: Over 100 Arrested, 47 Convicted in Last 5 Years Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

In the last month, three D.C. officers were accused in unrelated investigations involving child pornography, attempted murder and the running of a prostitution operation involving teenage girls.

More than 100 officers have been arrested in the last 5 years in D.C.. Most of the arrests involved alcohol-related traffic offenses or domestic violence.

- See more at: DC Police Misconduct: Over 100 Arrested, 47 Convicted in Last 5 Years | The Daily Sheeple

Chief Lanier emphasized – several times – that the first line of defense against misbehaving cops is the public, and said that citizen complaints are their biggest deterrent - See more at: DC Police Misconduct: Over 100 Arrested, 47 Convicted in Last 5 Years | The Daily Sheeple
 
Old 01-28-2014, 06:31 AM
 
2,295 posts, read 2,362,017 times
Reputation: 2668
The core of the OP's position seems to be that minorities are unfairly subjected to more scrutiny from law enforcement, yet the OP goes on to state that the same minorities being unduly harassed by the police commit the highest percentage of violent crime.

Sort of like an incident that occurred in the local area a year or so ago. It's 2am and a local resident heard noises outside his home. He grabbed his firearm and went to investigate. Upon getting outside, he saw two young males breaking into his truck. He told them to stop, one turned towards him and began to advance. He shot both. One remained at the scene and lived, the other tried to flea and died of wounds a short time later. There was a large outcry from people in the area protesting the homeowner's use of deadly force to protect his property. Claims that a truck isn't worth a human life, etc. While it is certainly a shame that a young man lost life over a truck, there was never any accusation of guilt, or that the two young men would not have been shot had they not been committing a crime, at 2am from those critical of the homeowner's actions.

People seem quite willing to make excuses for the perpetrators of crime while blaming the victims or police for persecution when the guilty are held to account.
 
Old 01-28-2014, 08:08 AM
 
Location: USA
13,255 posts, read 12,100,383 times
Reputation: 4228
Quote:
Originally Posted by TXStrat View Post
The core of the OP's position seems to be that minorities are unfairly subjected to more scrutiny from law enforcement, yet the OP goes on to state that the same minorities being unduly harassed by the police commit the highest percentage of violent crime.

Sort of like an incident that occurred in the local area a year or so ago. It's 2am and a local resident heard noises outside his home. He grabbed his firearm and went to investigate. Upon getting outside, he saw two young males breaking into his truck. He told them to stop, one turned towards him and began to advance. He shot both. One remained at the scene and lived, the other tried to flea and died of wounds a short time later. There was a large outcry from people in the area protesting the homeowner's use of deadly force to protect his property. Claims that a truck isn't worth a human life, etc. While it is certainly a shame that a young man lost life over a truck, there was never any accusation of guilt, or that the two young men would not have been shot had they not been committing a crime, at 2am from those critical of the homeowner's actions.

People seem quite willing to make excuses for the perpetrators of crime while blaming the victims or police for persecution when the guilty are held to account.
Well let me address your post.


First, your personal story has NOTHING to do with the topic at hand.

As far as your first paragraph goes, lets get to that.Your assuming that just because of my race, I should somehow be held responsible for the acts committed by others of my race. That is flat out wrong.

Whether its profiling white males for gun rights because of school shootings, or Middle Eastern people because of terrorist acts (Police are 8x more likely to kill you than terrorist by the way), or poor people because they simply won't have the legal defense... it's flat out wrong.



What happened to probable cause and our 4th Amendment rights? Why should I be pulled over simply for driving while black? Or walking while black?




If you can debate the morality and legality of that you'll have an argument but right now I don't see a clear argument other than "your race commits the most violent crime." Which is actually a pretty lazy argument when you don't even go into what factors could have contributed to that in the 1st place.
 
Old 01-28-2014, 09:39 AM
 
Location: southern california
61,289 posts, read 87,253,323 times
Reputation: 55556
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gtownoe View Post
Well let me address your post.


First, your personal story has NOTHING to do with the topic at hand.

As far as your first paragraph goes, lets get to that.Your assuming that just because of my race, I should somehow be held responsible for the acts committed by others of my race. That is flat out wrong.

Whether its profiling white males for gun rights because of school shootings, or Middle Eastern people because of terrorist acts (Police are 8x more likely to kill you than terrorist by the way), or poor people because they simply won't have the legal defense... it's flat out wrong.



What happened to probable cause and our 4th Amendment rights? Why should I be pulled over simply for driving while black? Or walking while black?




If you can debate the morality and legality of that you'll have an argument but right now I don't see a clear argument other than "your race commits the most violent crime." Which is actually a pretty lazy argument when you don't even go into what factors could have contributed to that in the 1st place.

when the posts stop being about being black or white, when the posts are about doing right, when the posts stop saying you you you and start saying i want it to be new--
it will get better but not b4. i have a dream. i can walk down the streets of memphis late at night without an armed escort. is that so wrong?
 
Old 01-28-2014, 09:48 AM
 
4,734 posts, read 4,318,244 times
Reputation: 3225
I think it's a catch-22. I think there's a social-economic scourge that's afflicting the black inner cities right now. Everyone's at a loss as to what to do about it, but it basically goes something like this: economic opportunity is nowhere to be found in black communities, so blacks - understandably - are more likely to turn to crime. Unfortunately, that discourages investments in the community, which is the very thing that would bring poverty levels down.

I think the prison-industrial complex is something that needs to be stopped. The U.S. is supposed to be the 'land of the free' yet it incarcerates more than probably all other industrialized nations combined. "The rule of law"...lol
 
Old 01-28-2014, 09:48 AM
 
Location: USA
13,255 posts, read 12,100,383 times
Reputation: 4228
Quote:
Originally Posted by Huckleberry3911948 View Post
when the posts stop being about being black or white, when the posts are about doing right, when the posts stop saying you you you and start saying i want it to be new--
it will get better but not b4. i have a dream. i can walk down the streets of memphis late at night without an armed escort. is that so wrong?
I defend all people. Regardless of color. And have for the entirety of my life.



The issue wouldn't be about race if black's and other minorities weren't profiled based upon race. You can't create a problem and then blame the victims for addressing the problem.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:38 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top