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Old 10-13-2013, 10:15 PM
 
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Providing the uninsured with health insurance is slavery? What a warped viewpoint.
Forcing them to buy a product or pay a penalty is slavery of debt. It also gives the government great control over our lives since the IRS will have freedom to monitor our bank accounts.
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Old 10-13-2013, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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This argument has been debunked many times, Freed slaves bought the freedom of other slaves, it isnt that hard a concept to follow.
Some blacks bought slaves to free them, some bought slaves to own them. Some whites bought slaves to free them, some bought slaves to own them. There is nothing to debunk, it's historical fact. However, feel free to show me the "debunking" if you'd like.
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Old 10-13-2013, 10:20 PM
 
Location: USA
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Forcing them to buy a product or pay a penalty is slavery of debt. It also gives the government great control over our lives since the IRS will have freedom to monitor our bank accounts.
Then stop the creation of credit cards, student loans, or any loans or services. The IRS already has freedom of your bank account, don't be so naive.
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Old 10-13-2013, 10:23 PM
 
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So, an attempt by the government to provide healthcare for citizens is as bad as oppressing an entire race of people? Wow, and this guy is supposed to be a doctor!
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Old 10-14-2013, 04:06 AM
 
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Not sure why libs got their panties in a bunch again about what Carson said.

From the perspective of Liberty, Obamacare is the worst thing since slavery.
Two sentences in, and you're already laughably wrong. Again, see the internment of Japanese-Americans during World War 2, the exile of Americans of Mexican descent under Hoover and FDR, and the constant discrimination against black and Indian americans throughout our history since slavery. Note that all of the above were doe specifically to take wealth from these communities without any compensation, while the health insurance mandate gets those who are affected by it affordable access to health care.

Again, if you want to make an argument based on US history, it would be best to have a glancing knowledge of US history.
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Old 10-14-2013, 05:10 AM
 
Location: Ubique
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Two sentences in, and you're already laughably wrong. Again, see the internment of Japanese-Americans during World War 2, the exile of Americans of Mexican descent under Hoover and FDR, and the constant discrimination against black and Indian americans throughout our history since slavery. Note that all of the above were doe specifically to take wealth from these communities without any compensation, while the health insurance mandate gets those who are affected by it affordable access to health care.

Again, if you want to make an argument based on US history, it would be best to have a glancing knowledge of US history.
Laughably wrong huh? Not just wrong, but laughably wrong? Sweet dream with your socialism. Who'll see who gets the last laugh.
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Old 10-14-2013, 06:29 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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So there were blacks who owned slaves? I find that farfetched. .
You need to read a little history. It was not that uncommon for blacks to own slaves 250 years ago in the USA.

Let us know if you need help finding the facts.
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Old 10-14-2013, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Ok..so now we're gonna talk about the 3 non-black slaves, huh?
Actually, it was several hundred thousand or more. Try reading some history.

From 1641 to 1652, over 500,000 Irish were killed by the English and another 300,000 were sold as slaves. Ireland’s population fell from about 1,500,000 to 600,000 in one single decade. Families were ripped apart as the British did not allow Irish dads to take their wives and children with them across the Atlantic. This led to a helpless population of homeless women and children. Britain’s solution was to auction them off as well.

During the 1650s, over 100,000 Irish children between the ages of 10 and 14 were taken from their parents and sold as slaves in the West Indies, Virginia and New England. In this decade, 52,000 Irish (mostly women and children) were sold to Barbados and Virginia. Another 30,000 Irish men and women were also transported and sold to the highest bidder. In 1656, Cromwell ordered that 2000 Irish children be taken to Jamaica and sold as slaves to English settlers.

The Irish Slave Trade
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Old 10-14-2013, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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How is allowing people to buy insurance at competitive rates like slavery?

For us self-employed folks it's a godsend.
You obviously don't know much about the new law.
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Old 10-14-2013, 08:07 AM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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Carson said the implementation of the Affordable Care Act was never about health care, only control]
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If that was the case, then Cons would be supporting it.
Exactly.
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