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Clean bill, lol. "Clean" to you means no reigning in at all, no compromise.
The Dems have tried to avoid strings for years. Those strings are also known as "budgets" in the real world. Some compromise is needed to get this spending until control. Part of the Collins bill kept the government spending at current levels, ie., sequester levels, but gave agencies flexibility to make decisions. Obama was just crowing about deficits coming down. This would continue that pattern, but allow the departments to do it in the most efficient ways.
I repeat: what part of you do not get rewarded with concessions for shutting down the government and taking us to the brink of default do you not get?
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Originally Posted by rbohm
actually both sides need to compromise. the longer this goes on, and the more the republicans compromise with democrats, and the longer reid and obama stand firm, the more public opinion is going to turn against them.
Yeah, because the Republicans don't want to make what was agreed on, happen. That's why we hate Obama and the Dems. Because Republicans don't want to do what they agreed to do.
It's like if Obama agreed to sign a law and then said, Nope, nevermind. I think I'll just not. . We'd love Obama a lot for that.
Wait. That is backwards. Disregard. What you said and I said made zero sense.
Really people still think that the whole interest of politics on display here is not bought out by corporate and bank business. You are not going to see anything reasonable, or something that would benefit the country because it will not benefit the conglomeration that controls it. Give me a beeping break. Want some cheese with your whine?
The Democrats hold the superior position as usual. Idiotic Republicans in the House had this pathetic plan to try to force their undesirable views since they couldn't get Romney elected. Dems rejected that crap, so it's the Dems' fault?
Get a clue. President Obama and the Dems are standing their ground and they are right. It's quite simple.
Pubs must yield to the superior view of the President.
What the OP failed to mention in his quote of the article is that the "bipartisan plan" included more altering of the ACA towards the GOP, which is why Reid rejected it. Stop playing around with the ACA and maybe a CR will get passed. Good grief....
People scream and yell where are the moderate Republicans. Susan Collins puts together a plan with bipartisan support- 6 Dems, 6 Repubs, and now you guys are applauding Reid rejecting this bipartisan moderate plan?
Guess everyone can see who the hardcore ideologues are. In this thread, they are all on the left.
BTW- Dems owned the Senate and House when Obamacare was passed. They could have passed whatever they wanted, as they did, without a single Republican vote. Stand up tall and proud, this cluster belongs 100% to you guys. If you thought it would be a success. You would be screaming in every thread that it passed without Repub votes. The fact that Dems are trying to shove it off in every thread proves that you already know it will be a failure.
Oh my goodness. The Congress exemption for the ACA has been debunked so many times, and yet you STILL bring that up? Keep up!
And you keep blaming one side while bragging how your side wont compromise. I am an Independent and hate both parties equally. Both are to blame for the mess this country is in. How can you defend a 0 compromise stance and yet condemn the otherside for not being reasonable. Reasonable people find compromise.
You still ignore the fact that the majority of Americans didn't want the ACA and still dont want the ACA. The Dems forced this upon us.
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