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Old 10-14-2013, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Better half of PA
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Originally Posted by Californian34 View Post
way to take a post to another poster out of context. Are you another rightie who believes the president closed these places out of spite?
He is fact. But instead of proving the spite angle he keeps insisting I prove it is not spite.

 
Old 10-14-2013, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Suffolk, Va
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Prove that it wasn't and show just how much money was saved by closing it.

By your own statement you cannot prove that spite was not a factor and erecting barricades where they have never been is a cost.

You lose, again.
first, shouldn't the people who have made the assertions that Obama did this out of spite and that it cost more money to close these parks/monuments back up what they've said? I have yet to see any source on either of these claims.
 
Old 10-14-2013, 10:25 AM
 
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What would it matter if he was Muslim? I've asked this before and I can't seem to get a satisfactory response.
Ask katzpaw, he us the one brought it up.
 
Old 10-14-2013, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Better half of PA
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How does anyone come to this conclusion?
Observations? I see none.
Testing? I see none.
Standards? I see none.


All I see is a claim. Your report is incomplete.







Then why file a claim that is not substantiated. That is fraud.
I'm not sure I'm a criminal because I think the Grand Canyon in the hands of AZ is a bad thing.
 
Old 10-14-2013, 10:25 AM
 
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Originally Posted by EmeraldCityWanderer View Post
What exactly did you expect when the government shut down? Everything would go along the same?

Did you expect the funding for all of this to come from the magical fairly land?
Funding for what exactly? How do you close outside open air memorials?!?! It actually cost money to put barricades up instead of leaving it OPEN AIR where people can freely walk.

This was simply more evidence that this Admin tried to make this more painful than it ever needed to be. Why do you and the rest of the liberal loons refuse to admit to that?!?!?!?
 
Old 10-14-2013, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Better half of PA
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Ask katzpaw, he us the one brought it up.
He won't answer. I was hoping just one (1) person could tell me why Obama being a Muslim would be a bad thing.
 
Old 10-14-2013, 10:27 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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No. You made the accusation. Now you prove to me that they are trying to profit.

No, the question was directed at you and all your claims to the contrary.

By the posted answer it is obvious that you can provide no facts in support of your stance.

As for profiting, how much blame are they attempting to pile on their opposition in an attempt to retain/gain power?

Think about it, if you can.
 
Old 10-14-2013, 10:33 AM
 
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it DOES matter if we don't have the funds to properly maintain and service these memorials and parks.
No, it doesn't. You simply close the services, period.

There's nothing difficult about this concept. These things BELONG TO THE PEOPLE, not the government.
 
Old 10-14-2013, 10:34 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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You may not want it. But it is needed.
You obviously do not want to admit it, but the number reopening in spite of federal interference and without federal funding proves you wrong.
 
Old 10-14-2013, 10:35 AM
 
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I can't give you an example because it hasn't happened yet. But I'm quite sure AZ would exploit the canyon for it's resources quite happily. My assumption comes from listening to AZ politicians talk. Their general disdain for conservation. Not all of them, but enough to give me pause, you know?
And the president is exploiting it for his purposes.

I fail to see where you have any principled stand on this.
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