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Old 10-14-2013, 09:32 AM
 
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The corporation is not a person, the people who make up the corporation are and those people already have rights.
Corporations are composed of people. So are unions. So are universities. So are families. The belief that we can somehow “tax corporations” without “taxing people” is the fallacy. It’s the same with any collective: If we take away union rights, we take away the rights of individual union members. If we strip a university’s accreditation, we also strip credibility from its students and its graduates.

Understanding it requires the ability to think a little deeper than Democratic talking points.

 
Old 10-14-2013, 09:34 AM
 
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I said Tariffs kept us self sufficient and strong. Along with we didn't need or have a direct federal tax, the people were robbed of, on the federal level.

Look at us now, in the New World Order and no tariffs
Taxes NEVER improve the economy. NEVER.
 
Old 10-14-2013, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Corporations are composed of people. So are unions. So are universities. So are families. The belief that we can somehow “tax corporations” without “taxing people” is the fallacy. It’s the same with any collective: If we take away union rights, we take away the rights of individual union members. If we strip a university’s accreditation, we also strip credibility from its students and its graduates.

Understanding it requires the ability to think a little deeper than Democratic talking points.
Universities and unions are not the same thing as a corporation.
 
Old 10-14-2013, 09:35 AM
 
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Subjects of the nation? So now what are you talking about?
Where one is no longer an individual person. They become a subject of government control and manipulation. FICA


Is there a punishment for not paying the Government what they demand? At one time there was not.

You see, we went real fast from a bottom up governance, to a top down governance, in the span of 100 years, starting in the Progressive Era.
 
Old 10-14-2013, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Taxes NEVER improve the economy. NEVER.
That is a stupid statement. Unless you think a tax free country would somehow function on magic dust and unicorns.
 
Old 10-14-2013, 09:36 AM
 
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And it took an amendment to override, did you stop reading my post when you hit the word "considered?"
Nope.

I just pointed out to you that 'considering' something to be something is not the same as ACTUALLY BEING.

Even YOU recognize that.

So why do we pretend that SCOTUS decides the Constitution? IT doesn't.

It is simply the HIGHEST COURT there is. It is still inferior to the people and only co-equal with two branches.
 
Old 10-14-2013, 09:37 AM
 
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The corporation is not a person, the people who make up the corporation are and those people already have rights.
An S-Corp is a corporation comprised of the owner(s). ALL the profit on that S-corp is taxed on the owner(s) "PERSONAL" tax return even when some of the profit is left in the business to pay for business operations.. So since you insist that a corporation is not a person the owner of the S-corp should not be taxed on all profit, they should be taxed on only the profit that the owner takes out of the business for personal use. These are the people Obama raised taxes on increasing expenses resulting on cut backs.

You liberals can't have it both ways.
 
Old 10-14-2013, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Nope.

I just pointed out to you that 'considering' something to be something is not the same as ACTUALLY BEING.

Even YOU recognize that.

So why do we pretend that SCOTUS decides the Constitution? IT doesn't.

It is simply the HIGHEST COURT there is. It is still inferior to the people and only co-equal with two branches.
Yeah, whatever. If you want to ignore history and facts because they don't fit you talking points, then I am done arguing with you about this. Let me know when you wish to acknowledge history and facts.
 
Old 10-14-2013, 09:38 AM
 
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That is a stupid statement. Unless you think a tax free country would somehow function on magic dust and unicorns.
Ok, show me how taxes improve an economy.

Come on. I'm waiting.
 
Old 10-14-2013, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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An S-Corp is a corporation comprised of the owner(s). ALL the profit on that S-corp is taxed on the owner(s) "PERSONAL" tax return even when some of the profit is left in the business to pay for business operations.. So since you insist that a corporation is not a person the owner of the S-corp should not be taxed on all profit, they should be taxed on only the profit that the owner takes out of the business for personal use. These are the people Obama raised taxes on increasing expenses resulting on cut backs.

You liberals can't have it both ways.
A corporation is taxed as a business, not a person. There is a huge difference between those two. Sorry you can't see that difference.
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