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Old 10-15-2013, 07:11 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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let's see:......

who killed the middleclass....the fascist liberals
who is NOT helping the poor, but keeping the poor in poverty....the fascist liberals
who is not willing to negotiate.....the fascist liberals
who is mandating the americans who cant afford insurance be forced to buy insurance they cant afford .....the fascist liberals
who caused the financial meltdown....the liberals and their policies set forth back in the 90's

the liberals are killing America

the liberal dream.....two classes...the poor serfs surviving on the scraps of welfare, and the elite liberal masters controlling the masses of serfs
Convince America. Right now, they are apparently not buying what the teabaggers are selling.
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Old 10-15-2013, 07:21 AM
 
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It doesnt show the exact opposite. What polls have you been looking at ? people may like their own representative by they still disprove of the way the party in general is run. You can here that at any Tea Party rally when they speak of "establishment" republicans.

Let's look at the 3 main players in the Conservative movement.

Mike Lee of Utah has an approval rating about 60% in his state.
Rand Paul also has over a 60% rating in Kentucky.
Ted Cruz, has over a 75% approval rating in Texas.
Even Boehner has an approval rating over 60% in his district.
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Old 10-15-2013, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Norman, OK
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How much of that percentage are actual GOP members? And what percentage of those GOP members are unhappy with the GOP because they feel like they haven't gone far enough?

I find this analogous to the 'majority of Americans are opposed to the ACA" when really a sliver of that majority is against it because they wanted single payer.
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Old 10-15-2013, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Yeh, because last time Democrats took both houses of Congress really worked out well. Don't let the Tea Party fool you into thinking Democrats actually have good ideas, can govern or care about you.
I agree, the Democrats in Congress acted too weak after the 2008 elections and didn't campaign strong enough in 2010 against what should have been easy wins for them. Hopefully they will not make that same mistake next time.
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Old 10-15-2013, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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They have demonstrated complete failure of leadership, and they will lose big, but I hope they replace bad Republicans with good ones, as opposed to replacing all "R" with "D", because full control of one party is not a good thing.
I would be just as happy seeing a bunch of moderate Republicans (or what RWNJs call RINOs) winning in 2014, though I still hope for the Democrats to win a few more seats in the House.
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Old 10-15-2013, 07:48 AM
 
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Let's hope that American's do as the French appear to be doing and turn to third party.
I would hope not, since France's third party is a neo-fascist party.
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Old 10-15-2013, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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And barely anyone votes for third parties, so I don't see any of them becoming dominate until they begin trying to establish themselves at local and state levels first before trying to take seats at Capitol Hill.
the problem is the 2 main are entwined in the 3rd parties

ie in the potus race:
obama was not only the democrat candidate, but also the liberal party candidate, and the green party candidate

romney had not only the repubs, but also the con ticket, the workers ticket and the right to life tickets too

so what you have was 2 guys representing 7 or 8 parties
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Old 10-15-2013, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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the problem is the 2 main are entwined in the 3rd parties

ie in the potus race:
obama was not only the democrat candidate, but also the liberal party candidate, and the green party candidate

romney had not only the repubs, but also the con ticket, the workers ticket and the right to life tickets too

so what you have was 2 guys representing 7 or 8 parties
Huh? Roseanne Barr was the presidential candidate for the Green Party in 2012.
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Old 10-15-2013, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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The scenario of the 1% ruling a 'serf' class is not a liberal idea (and I have no idea what a 'fascist liberal' is...that's an oxymoron.) It is a right-wing ideal that has been coming to fruition for 30+ years.
fascism is a form of socialism, which all connects to marxism


fascism is left


As an ardent admirer of Marx, Benito Mussolini (1883-1945) called his version of Marxist socialism "Fascism" Instead of nationalization--government ownership--of private business, Mussolini advocated government control of business via complete bureaucratic regulation.


""Fascism is a system in which the government leaves nominal ownership of the means of production in the hands of private individuals but exercises control by means of regulatory legislation and reaps most of the profit by means of heavy taxation. In effect, fascism is simply a more subtle form of government ownership than is socialism."" Mussolini


you can not deny
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Old 10-15-2013, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Huh? Roseanne Barr was the presidential candidate for the Green Party in 2012.
uhmm...I was giving an example...

btw the 'green party' candidate was jill stein
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