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This is a great article by Charles Blow. The GOP has tried so hard to change the narrative from their failed and expensive shutdown to the ACA website not functioning properly which cost a fraction of what their shutdown cost the American economy. The GOP is demanding an IMMEDIATE fix to a problem that they have prayed for. They are quickly showing themselves to be the most disingenous people that we have ever had the misfortune of placing in Washington. Presumeably to deflect public attention away from their HISTORICALLY low approval ratings.
The only major problem for the GOP. This website problem isn't likely to survive that long. The GOP's ideological issues are deep-rooted, well-documented, and widely unpopular. The site is in the process as we speak of being repaired, however the GOP's unpopularity is reinforcing itself daily.
"So they (GOP) have focused their attention on a technical hiccup and tried to spin it as a symptom of systematic incompetency — if the Obama administration can’t run a complicated Web site, it is incapable of managing a complicated policy. But this logic simply pushes beyond credibility. As the president said Monday: “Let me remind everybody that the Affordable Care Act is not just a Web site.” The Web site is only a part of the whole."
This is a great article by Charles Blow. The GOP has tried so hard to change the narrative from their failed and expensive shutdown to the ACA website not functioning properly which cost a fraction of what their shutdown cost the American economy. The GOP is demanding an IMMEDIATE fix to a problem that they have prayed for. They are quickly showing themselves to be the most disingenous people that we have ever had the misfortune of placing in Washington. Presumeably to deflect public attention away from their HISTORICALLY low approval ratings.
The only major problem for the GOP. This website problem isn't likely to survive that long. The GOP's ideological issues are deep-rooted, well-documented, and widely unpopular. The site is in the process as we speak of being repaired, however the GOP's unpopularity is reinforcing itself daily.
"So they (GOP) have focused their attention on a technical hiccup and tried to spin it as a symptom of systematic incompetency — if the Obama administration can’t run a complicated Web site, it is incapable of managing a complicated policy. But this logic simply pushes beyond credibility. As the president said Monday: “Let me remind everybody that the Affordable Care Act is not just a Web site.” The Web site is only a part of the whole."
You realize that the problems with Obamacare go well beyond just the website? It is a burden on the middle class which the Republicans don't like because we are their base. The welfare leeches who enjoy watching tv all day while sucking the government dry are Obama's base.
After 31/2 years to setup signup its a mess and millions spent on faulty system.I wouldm not say its a hipup but perhaps in democratic terms is the same standard as other polices and programs like stimulus earlier.
You realize that the problems with Obamacare go well beyond just the website? It is a burden on the middle class which the Republicans don't like because we are their base. The welfare leeches who enjoy watching tv all day while sucking the government dry are Obama's base.
Welfare is not part of ACA. Medicaid is for the poor. ACA does not service the poor.
After 31/2 years to setup signup its a mess and millions spent on faulty system.I wouldm not say its a hipup but perhaps in democratic terms is the same standard as other polices and programs like stimulus earlier.
The site is already better than it was on the federal level and most of the state exchanges aren't experiencing the difficulties at all. Despite the hard-on the GOP has for this issue...it will be resolved soon. The law itself will obviously have issues too, just as all ambitious legislation does, but in the end the anecdotal horror stories of sticker shock will be marginalized as hand me down ignorance which most of them have proven to be. This system is modeled after the Mass. system and it's very popular and 100% workable.
It's entertaining to watch the GOP practically salivate over the issues the website has had under some misguided hope that this spells the end of the ACA.
Here are a few things to remember.
1). Most Americans already have health insurance, so the website is of no relevance to them.
2). Because of the law...an array of new benefits are available even to those that don't need the website.
3). 26 year olds can stay on their parents insurance.
4). 80% of paid premium has to be spent on care.
5). No more denials for pre-existing conditions.
6). Seniors have new discounts for their prescriptions.
7). You can call 800-318-2596 to apply for healthcare
8). You can print off the PDF of the healthcare application and mail it in.
The ACA is moving along JUST fine. Despite your best efforts and conjecture...The administration is still committed to providing coverage for all Americans.
I heard a guy make the analogy that the website is just the doorway. It should have been the easy part. Once you get inside the building, it is likely going to be even more of a nightmare.
If most Democrats go into denial as deeply as OP, they are setting themselves up for even bigger problems than otherwise. Democrats should have listened to Rudy G in 2008. According to the interwebs, he was the first to say "hope is not a strategy." Maybe it's way too to point that out now....
When the SCOTUS struck down the provision of the ACA that required all states to accept Medicaid expansions; the red states were chomping at the bit. States are free to reject Medicaid expansions that would cost them nothing the first year and a trivial amount later. So the question is...How can states turn down money to insure their poorest members? Unbridled Spite...Spite to slap the hand of literally anything that has Obama's name on it.
What is their real justification? Rate Shock? Nah...not that.
Some of them have the audacity to claim that Medicaid actually hurts it's recipients. The evidence the right wingers in power have used......those that are on Medicaid tend to be sicker.
"O.K., you know what to do: Google “spurious correlation health.” You are immediately led to the tale of certain Pacific Islanders who long believed tha having lice made you healthy, because they observed that people with lice were, typically, healthier than those without. They were, of course, mixing up cause and effect: lice tend to infest the healthy, so they were a consequence, not a cause, of good health.
The application to Medicaid should be obvious. Sick people are likely to have low incomes; more generally, low-income Americans who qualify for Medicaid just tend in general to have poor health. So pointing to a correlation between Medicaid and poor health as evidence that Medicaid actually hurts its recipients is as foolish as claiming that lice make you healthy. It is, as I said, a lousy argument."
-Krugman.
So in summation. The rightie governors are planning on all denying Medicaid expansions in an ill-fated attempt to keep the poorest and sickest members of society off Medicaid roles.....for their own good? This is a great sign of the Right's moral and intellectual path towards the oblivion and it's all in the name of spite.
Welfare is not part of ACA. Medicaid is for the poor. ACA does not service the poor.
Let's be honest about this. Any subsidies given to people to buy insurance is taking money from someone and giving it to someone else. That is public assistance or welfare or whatever you want to call it.
Perhaps they are leery because experience has taught them that whenever the federal government says they'll pick up the tab for a new program or expansion, while they may at first, three things happen. First, whatever support they get at first decreases with time (there are already plans for this with expanded Medicare). Second, the federal government seldom funds as much as originally touted. Third, any federal money they do receive comes with a huge set of rules and regulations, that often end up costing a lot of money and are a big headache. That trival amount of money you claim becomes not trival very quickly. The states have had plenty of experience with this phenomena in education. If the costs are more than planned it is a huge problem for most state governments, unlike the federal government they can't just print more money and most states are constitutionally mandated to operate in the black.
Let's be honest about this. Any subsidies given to people to buy insurance is taking money from someone and giving it to someone else. That is public assistance or welfare or whatever you want to call it.
Agreed. Obamacare needs to be scraped and started over. Criminal what they are doing to the younger generation... going to be an uprising over this once people start to realize the true plan. My 25 year old nephew is up in arms over this as are all his friends and they refuse to participate. Hope the lawsuit going through channels strikes this down when it reaches the Supreme Court.
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Lousy Medicaid Arguments
