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Old 10-27-2013, 10:23 AM
 
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Have it your way. American medical costs are reasonable and affordable. Why, they're actually cheaper than the medical costs of other countries! Nothing to see here; move along.
Better?
my health insurance is just fine. cheap too. how about you stop posting links to things no one has ever heard of. just because it has the words "international" and "federation" in the title, you take them seriously.

 
Old 10-27-2013, 10:24 AM
 
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Instead of moaning about the content of my posts, how about putting up data that shows how I'm wrong? I'll wait.
No, you have to prove you're right.

And not with your usual supply of fallacies.
 
Old 10-27-2013, 10:25 AM
 
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my health insurance is just fine. cheap too. how about you stop posting links to things no one has ever heard of. just because it has the words "international" and "federation" in the title, you take them seriously.
Just remind these dweebs whose entire thought process is based on fallacies... that you don't accept them.

Learn what the fallacies are, and just remind them from time to time.

List of fallacies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Old 10-27-2013, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Health insurers ration your care by limiting the doctors you may visit because they negotiate fees with those doctors. They will only pay for you to visit the ones they have negotiated the lowest fees with.
Health insurers ration care through co-pays, deductibles and caps. In fact, what they are really doing is encouraging you to self-ration. Knowing that a certain amount of your care will have to be paid from your pocket, you may choose not to get the care or drug you need. Health insurers deny services or reimbursements for services. Denial of care is perhaps the most understood form of rationing, because it causes outrage and frustration. What most patients don't understand is that this is also the aspect of rationing that is most affected by laws and regulations, too.
Healthcare Rationing - What Is Healthcare Rationing?
 
Old 10-27-2013, 10:28 AM
 
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Originally Posted by weltschmerz View Post
Health insurers ration your care by limiting the doctors you may visit because they negotiate fees with those doctors. They will only pay for you to visit the ones they have negotiated the lowest fees with.
Health insurers ration care through co-pays, deductibles and caps. In fact, what they are really doing is encouraging you to self-ration. Knowing that a certain amount of your care will have to be paid from your pocket, you may choose not to get the care or drug you need. Health insurers deny services or reimbursements for services. Denial of care is perhaps the most understood form of rationing, because it causes outrage and frustration. What most patients don't understand is that this is also the aspect of rationing that is most affected by laws and regulations, too.
Healthcare Rationing - What Is Healthcare Rationing?
nope. my health care is just fine. cheap too. I never use it, but that's another issue.
 
Old 10-27-2013, 10:29 AM
 
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Originally Posted by weltschmerz View Post
Health insurers ration your care by limiting the doctors you may visit because they negotiate fees with those doctors. They will only pay for you to visit the ones they have negotiated the lowest fees with.
Health insurers ration care through co-pays, deductibles and caps. In fact, what they are really doing is encouraging you to self-ration. Knowing that a certain amount of your care will have to be paid from your pocket, you may choose not to get the care or drug you need. Health insurers deny services or reimbursements for services. Denial of care is perhaps the most understood form of rationing, because it causes outrage and frustration. What most patients don't understand is that this is also the aspect of rationing that is most affected by laws and regulations, too.
Healthcare Rationing - What Is Healthcare Rationing?
I'm sorry, your post is a big fat lie.

Rationing is a restriction of availability or supply... That you failed to buy insurance to cover what you thought, or that you want something paid for that doesn't conform to the terms and conditions of your contract IS NOT RATIONING. You can always pay for it yourself. Rationing is when it's NOT available, whether you have money or not.

Rationing is when the government issues rules that reduce the supply, or exclude people from having certain things because of age or other conditions. That's health care rationing.
 
Old 10-27-2013, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Fine. Have it your way. Healthcare in America is more than affordable. Nothing's broken, everything's fine. Much ado about nothing.
Happy?
 
Old 10-27-2013, 10:33 AM
 
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Fine. Have it your way. Healthcare in America is more than affordable. Nothing's broken, everything's fine. Much ado about nothing.
Happy?
I'm happy. but see, I am not a parasite. I have always had health insurance, because I have one of those pesky little job thingies.
 
Old 10-27-2013, 10:33 AM
 
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Fine. Have it your way. Healthcare in America is more than affordable. Nothing's broken, everything's fine. Much ado about nothing.
Happy?
That's the sum total of your debate isn't it? Lie, post fallacies, and then post snark. As if you are completely incapable of a reasoned thought, or telling the truth.

So, why would anyone trust your opinion on anything? Why should it even be listened to? How can someone who can't form a logical argument or tell the truth provide or even have relevant input into a solution to anything?
 
Old 10-27-2013, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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That's the sum total of your debate isn't it? Lie, post fallacies, and then post snark. As if you are completely incapable of a reasoned thought, or telling the truth.

So, why would anyone trust your opinion on anything? Why should it even be listened to? How can someone who can't form a logical argument or tell the truth provide or even have relevant input into a solution to anything?
So don't listen and don't read my posts. Seems simple enough. I'm surprised it hasn't occurred to you.
Oh, wait...I'm not.
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