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Old 10-25-2013, 04:46 PM
 
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The implication that most Americans are rendered servile in exchange for social services and can't make informed decisions about political parties, is highly insulting. I can't imagine why Mitt Romney wasn't able to win these people's votes when he made that claim.



It was used to demonize him by the Obama team as you very well remember.

The propaganda was more important and of value to them than the truth.
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Old 10-25-2013, 04:48 PM
 
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I just don't understand why supposedly educated people can't understand this statistic. See below:



Exactly! I do not know anyone, who, over the course of their lifetime, did not receive any government benefits.


Not a problem, the ones that receive it for the course of their lifetime is though.
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Old 10-25-2013, 04:53 PM
 
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Most government assistance programs aren't a career choice. That only happens for those making a generalized statement about government assistance.


You do know better than that for some and it's no small number.
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Old 10-25-2013, 05:03 PM
 
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Doing what? Seriously. Its not like jobs paying a living wage are going unfilled.
There's always fast food and retail.
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Old 10-25-2013, 05:35 PM
 
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There's always fast food and retail.
What makes you think those jobs are going unfilled? Seriously. LOL.

10 years ago that might have been a acceptable answer. But not these days.
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Old 10-25-2013, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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When over half the population is mooching off the rest, it's oviously a career choice. 50% of the population is not disabled. Maybe 5% at most.
where do you find all this straw for your posts. Do you consider the elderly, military, and college students to be moochers? You guys always try to use this stupid notion that half of America is moochers until someone calls you out on it, then you start making exceptions for the people in that 50%.
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Old 10-25-2013, 09:56 PM
 
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The number in this study is bunk. It's more like 100% of people receive benefits from government programs.
The govt has spent a huge amt of time turning out services so they can make a buck. Without knowing what "benefits" they are discussing not much to discuss.
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Old 10-25-2013, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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The implication of this thread is absurd.

I am doing great financially, but I have received VA medical care. That is technically a government benefit.

Oh, and it is also socialized medicine.
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Old 10-25-2013, 10:33 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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I just don't understand why liberals support this sort of statistic
I will explain it to you. Most of those 49% are Americans who pay 0% in federal taxes, and also Americans who get earned income tax credits (of about $750.)

These Americans are full time workers who make around $17,000 a year. These American workers must pay for rent, electricity, car maintenance, car insurance, gasoline, phone service, food, clothes, ex.ex. Their $17,000 a year salary is barely enough to pay all their bills. And if we made these Americans pay federal taxes it would financially destroy them. (And very often these working Americans need that $750 tax credit to pay down debt they are forced into.)

These Americans are also single or divorced mothers who only make $25,000 a year. They must pay for all the expenses listed above (plus pay for the care for their children.) And if we forced Americans like these to pay federal taxes it would financially destroy them as well.


The republicans attack these low income American workers for having 0% federal tax rates, but the republicans want to give billionaires 0% federal tax rates. (the republicans talk about giving billionaires 0% tax rates out loud in public, as the following link shows.)

The republicans say giving the rich 0% tax rates will help us all. But the rich will use that money to build more US factories in Asia, replace American workers with factory robots, and buy themselves the newest and "fastest" private jet airplanes. ex.ex.


Romney in January: With 0% Capital Gains Tax Rate I Would Have Paid No Taxes - YouTube



Today billionaires like Warren Buffet pay 11% - 17% federal tax rates, while Americans who make $100,000 a year pay 30%+ federal tax rates.

Warren Buffett's Effective Federal Income Tax Rate Was Just 11% - Forbes

But if we talk about raising billionaires tax rates (to the 30%+ that Americans who make $100,000 a year pay) the republicans call it "income redistribution" or "punishing people for being successful" ex.ex.


Warren Buffet and the democrats want to do something about these billionaires too low tax rates, (you must click the blue words under the screen to watch the video.)


Warren Buffett, Secretary Debbie Bosanek Discuss Tax Rate Inequality in Interview - YouTube

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Old 10-25-2013, 10:55 PM
 
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I will explain it to you. Most of those 49% are Americans who pay 0% in federal taxes, and also Americans who get earned income tax credits (of about $750.)

These Americans are full time workers who make around $17,000 a year. These American workers must pay for rent, electricity, car maintenance, car insurance, gasoline, phone service, food, clothes, ex.ex. Their $17,000 a year salary is barely enough to pay all their bills. And if we made these Americans pay federal taxes it would financially destroy them. (And often these working Americans need that $750 tax credit just to be able to pay all their bills, or pay down debt they are forced into.)

These Americans are also single or divorced mothers who only make $25,000 a year. They must pay for all the expenses listed above (plus pay for the care for their children.) And if we forced Americans like these to pay taxes it would financially destroy them as well.


The republicans attack these low income American workers for having 0% federal tax rates, but the republicans want to give billionaires 0% federal tax rates. (the republicans talk about giving billionaires 0% tax rates out loud in public, as the following link shows.)

The republicans say giving the rich 0% tax rates will help us all. But the rich will use that money to build more US factories in Asia, replace American workers with factory robots, and buy themselves the newest and "fastest" private jet airplanes. ex.ex.


Romney in January: With 0% Capital Gains Tax Rate I Would Have Paid No Taxes - YouTube



Today billionaires like Warren Buffet pay 11% - 17% federal tax rates, while Americans who make $100,000 a year pay 30%+ federal tax rates.

Warren Buffett's Effective Federal Income Tax Rate Was Just 11% - Forbes

But if we talk about raising billionaires tax rates (to the 30%+ that Americans who make $100,000 a year pay) the republicans call it "income redistribution" or "punishing people for being successful" ex.ex.


Warren Buffet and the democrats want to do something about these billionaires too low tax rates,


Warren Buffett, Secretary Debbie Bosanek Discuss Tax Rate Inequality in Interview - YouTube
Some important things you seem to not be including. The govt needs a reason to create an investment fund. They have tons, this is where most of their wealth comes from, not taxes.

Though taxes are another source of revenue and of funding the investment funds. So they come up with a svc or product to use as a reason. They need those "poor" people just like everybody else. Without people they got nothing. No value at all.
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