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View Poll Results: Best way to fix healthcare.gov?
Throw in "A-Team" 2 5.26%
Scrap it with single payer 14 36.84%
Blame Bush 12 31.58%
Sue CGI until they fix it 5 13.16%
Pie 5 13.16%
Voters: 38. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-25-2013, 12:32 PM
 
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Why don't you send the agreement text, so we can review it. Typically the paying customers can make changes and requests, and as a matter of fact I have never seen an IT project which did not undergo changes during the project, but I have never heard that called a "breach is agreement". If it was a breach of agreement, then why did the contractor agree to do it? Once again, this is the contractor blaming the customer for the failure, which is borderline absurd. Again, I have been doing this for 24 years.

I know this is embarrassing for both sides with the whole nation watching, and the president and cabinet members having to explain the problems, but this company screwed up royally. A good project lead is tough with the customers and will tell them the truth about what can and cannot be done when changes are requested. I have never seen this kind of refusal to take responsibility. Never.

A professional would identify the issues during the design phase and tell the customer what can, and cannot be done. This is BASIC. I get amazing requests all the time, and as an IT pro, I tell the customers what can and cannot be done. The company who took the ACA Web site project did not do that. They took the project, and the money, and delivered garbage and then try to blame the problems on the customer. It's absurd.
We don't know yet if what you say is true. You are making a lot of assumptions.
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Old 10-25-2013, 12:34 PM
 
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No, changes are normal, and it is not bad luck, it is business as usual, and those changes don't sound too radical to me, they were simply not done properly, or they failed to assess the risk of the changes.
Did you watch the hearings yesterday?
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Old 10-25-2013, 12:39 PM
 
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Choose wisely...
None of the options. You are too biased
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Old 10-25-2013, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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LOL @ single payer option.

I hope your representatives go for it. Should be comical.
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Old 10-25-2013, 12:41 PM
 
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Where is the option to remove the web site, defund this fiasco and go for some real healthcare reform?
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Old 10-25-2013, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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I'm still trying to figure out why it wasn't an American company.
Lowest cost perhaps. Or is it the skills gap that industries point to.

I still don't know why the "A-team" wasn't enlisted from the start. I don't know what is the right method to take care of this fiasco as we are still facing the issue 1/6th of the way through. We are not even 1/6th of the total enrollees needed (though we have five more months and RomneyCare was known to have more enrollees at the end.) We don't even know the type of enrollees. They could all be sick and/or elderly who will bankrupt the system without 40% of the enrollees being healthy and young.
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Old 10-25-2013, 01:01 PM
 
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Choose wisely...
i think we should do all 5 simulataneously. they aren't mutually exclusive.

especially suing CGI, and pie.

but in all seriousness, this is just how government contracting goes. anybody who thinks this has something to do with obama , hasn't been paying attention to the hundreds of failed, expensive projects all across the world at the hands of gov't contractors.

it's a hell of a business to get into, especially if you can get one of those women / minority owned business preferences.

we should look at the UK, who had enough sense to hire smart tech people to actually work FOR the government building information systems. (As opposed to working for a contractor.)
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Old 10-25-2013, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Did you watch the hearings yesterday?
Yes, they are very keen on blaming everyone but themselves. I am not surprised they do that, because this thing has destroyed their reputation, and the blame game is only making it worse.
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Old 10-25-2013, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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i think we should do all 5 simulataneously. they aren't mutually exclusive.

especially suing CGI, and pie.

but in all seriousness, this is just how government contracting goes. anybody who thinks this has something to do with obama , hasn't been paying attention to the hundreds of failed, expensive projects all across the world at the hands of gov't contractors.

it's a hell of a business to get into, especially if you can get one of those women / minority owned business preferences.

we should look at the UK, who had enough sense to hire smart tech people to actually work FOR the government building information systems. (As opposed to working for a contractor.)
It's not just Obama. Just about every president have had misguided contracting under their watch. If anyone believes the contracting issue is recent, I have beachfront property in Kansas to sell them.
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Old 10-25-2013, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Choose wisely...
Well, geez, you didn't really leave me with an answer I would want to choose...I had to choose "pie", the kind you eat, because it's just as nonsensical as all of the other choices. None of them were acceptable.

My answer? Scrap the entire thing, no I do not want to go to single payer, let the insurance companies sell across state lines...watch the prices go down.
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