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Old 11-20-2007, 03:23 PM
 
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There were several articles I found on this topic when I googled this. I would recommend you doing the same as this kinda screams internet hoax. (It isnt but it is a little bit of garbage journalism)


So, in short....I don't think we are really getting the full story on some of these. Yes, it's outrageous but it seems to be that the end result is that this guy won't actually have to pay it back once things get sorted out.
Well I have reviewed this piece again and the only thing I have found that was not all that kosher was the report alluding to this having many cases but not citing them. Leaving the reader with maybe it is true, maybe it isn't.

On the other side of this was the recent episode with Walter Reid hospital where the military said all is well and it was if you don't mind rats running through or paint peeling off the walls. This of course was just an oversight and it was corrected because it was brought to peoples attention.

In another case there was the military being caught using a personality disorder clause to keep from paying benefits to soldiers discharged for other medical related issues. This issue is still under review from the same panel that is investigating the claims stated in this posted piece.

If nothing else, one thing is clear and that seems to be a pattern that the US government is not always benevolent in fulfilling its obligations to its soldiers and if it can get away with shaving the rim of a dime it very well may. When Senators have to repeatedly open investigations on how our veterans and soldiers are treated or their countries obligations to them are being met, something beyond just a silly mistake is at hand.

This maybe a misunderstanding or it may just be a pattern of indignant treatment of vets but I am willing to bet that no such mistakes happen to senators or congressman's pension plans or other benefits.
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Old 11-20-2007, 04:44 PM
 
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I am willing to bet that no such mistakes happen to senators or congressman's pension plans or other benefits.
You would make off quite well if you placed a huge wager on this bet
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Old 11-20-2007, 04:53 PM
 
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Why do you hate our troops and America!?
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Old 11-20-2007, 05:57 PM
 
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Why do you hate our troops and America!?
uh... huh?
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Old 11-20-2007, 06:57 PM
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Yes, it's disgusting. But is anyone really surprised? Bush's Defense secretary sends troops into Iraq without adequate equipment. Then his administration gives huge contracts to companies like Halliburton, who in 2005 exposed troops to contaminated water, said nothing about it, and then tried to deny it when it was discovered. And in the middle of the war, the administration cuts Veteran Administration funding.

When are people going to get it? Just because this man says he believes in something, doesn't mean he really does. He has never been concerned about the military; he did his best not to serve in it. He is only about the corporations that sell to the military.
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Old 11-20-2007, 07:11 PM
 
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Yes, it's disgusting. But is anyone really surprised? Bush's Defense secretary sends troops into Iraq without adequate equipment. Then his administration gives huge contracts to companies like Halliburton, who in 2005 exposed troops to contaminated water, said nothing about it, and then tried to deny it when it was discovered. And in the middle of the war, the administration cuts Veteran Administration funding.

When are people going to get it? Just because this man says he believes in something, doesn't mean he really does. He has never been concerned about the military; he did his best not to serve in it. He is only about the corporations that sell to the military.
That Hayat water will give you kidney stones
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Old 11-20-2007, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Kingman AZ
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Why do you hate our troops and America!?
Did I miss something in that post????

I am now soooooooooo confused
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Old 11-20-2007, 08:33 PM
 
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TnHilltopper - Bravo!

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I figure that regardless of peoples political views or what they think of the war, those who go and fight these wars should never have to worry about how they will be cared for when it is all said and done. It is the one aspect of government spending I have no qualms with and will share the last dollar to my name to do so.
Laura Ingraham brought this up on 'The O'Reilly Factor' tonight. She hosted a veteran who told his story about the Army 'glitch' that required him to pay back his signing bonus. BTW, the troop said that even after all this (the wounding and the Army foul up): he was proud of what he did in Iraq and that he would do it all over again (paraphrased).

This will be cleared up shortly. IMO, this is what a free press should do - so thanks for helping publicize the problem.
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Old 11-20-2007, 08:35 PM
 
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Why do you hate our troops and America!?
Hmm, truthiness

I think TriMT7 was mimicking the 'Colbert Report'
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Old 11-20-2007, 09:28 PM
 
Location: in my imagination
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Regarding sending the military into battle unprepared and with inadequate equipment the same could be said for WW2,Korea and Vietnam.

The fact is U.S.A's military training and equipment is second to none,but is not always geared up to certain tactics the enemy might use and they must adapt as situations arise.

Trying to take back the bonuses is shameful.I agree that the military is underpaid and should recieve bonuses,I don't agree with the idea of $500,000 or $1,000,000 bonuses like some have claimes they should get but what was promised upfront should be held up.
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