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Old 10-27-2013, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Originally Posted by Chimuelojones View Post
If it is about dead, let the people choose to pull the plug in 2014.

You want to tell the millions being thrown-off their current insurance because of Obamacare to wait until 2014 to pull the plug?

Then what?

Millions of Americans Are Losing Their Health Plans Because of Obamacare | The Weekly Standard

Liberals are so compassionate!
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Old 10-27-2013, 10:31 AM
 
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I think we have to endure this until the Liar in Chief is out of office.

He can veto any bill Congress passes, even if the Republicans get majorities in the House and Senate.

If people are REALLY p.o.-ed, R's might get veto proof majorities, but it's unlikely given how many leeches are getting government checks.
But if there is 2/3rds majority in both House and Senate, guess what. Obama is left flapping in the wind while his signature plan is completely flushed.
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Old 10-27-2013, 10:36 AM
 
Location: texas
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That is sort of like buying and paying for a car when you know the engine is questionable at best. Wouldn't it be better to just find a different car that doesn't have problems? But then again this is how the FED does things. Don't look at a model system that works and works well. Pay to re-invent the wheel, throw some bling on it and see how it works.
Your contention is that you know the engine is questionable...You haven't even driven the car off the lot and you complaining about the engine.

Get it home, kick the tires, drive it to gramdma's house for thanksgiving. If it doesnt meet your needs...get rid of it. Just because your neighbor has soured on "Obamamobiles"...Be your own man and make up your own mind.

If ACA does not work for you or your family, work against keeping the law as is.

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Old 10-27-2013, 10:41 AM
 
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LOL

You obviously have no clue what kind of profit insurance companies bring in.
About 3% of their gross revenues..Far from excessive.
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Old 10-27-2013, 10:48 AM
 
Location: texas
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You want to tell the millions being thrown-off their current insurance because of Obamacare to wait until 2014 to pull the plug?

Then what?

Millions of Americans Are Losing Their Health Plans Because of Obamacare | The Weekly Standard

Liberals are so compassionate!

I have heard you say that "millions" are being thrown off their insurance. You want a solution formulated for these "millions" who have yet to make their voices heard? I would think millions of people would be getting law makers' and the media's attention real fast.

You're worried, complaining, and looking for solutions to conditions that haven't even happen yet.
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Old 10-27-2013, 10:54 AM
 
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There are 300,000 being cancelled by one health insurer in Florida alone:

Florida Blue cites Affordable Care Act - Jacksonville Business Journal

I saw an 800,000 number in NJ.

And two insurers in CA were cancelling close to 300,000.

Health insurance cancellation notices soar above Obamacare enrollment rates | The Daily Caller

Millions seems an accurate estimate.
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Old 10-27-2013, 11:05 AM
 
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It's getting tired that you summarily marginalize people who disagree with you as if your views are de-facto correct that need no explanation.



Here you thought all along that was the exclusive property of the Dems.
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Old 10-27-2013, 11:12 AM
 
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What are you taking about...UnitedHealtcare [as well as the others]sells all sorts of heath insurance polices.

Here. Inform yourself.

Health Insurance Plans for Individuals | UnitedHealthcare

Ten-Minute Guide to Health Reform

Health Reform - Understand the Basics

Health Insurance Marketplaces

Exchanges are a new way for people to shop for and buy a plan. Marketplaces are meant to help people find a plan that meets the standards set by the federal government. While every state's Marketplace will offer plans from insurance companies, the Marketplaces themselves are set up and run either by the state, the federal government, or both together.
Each state's Marketplace will be divided between Individual (for families and individuals) and SHOP (health plans for small employers) Marketplaces.

Insurance Companies

Insurance companies can sell plans through employers or directly to people – just as they have done in the past. Under health reform, they can also sell approved plans through the Marketplaces.




Says the same thing as the post that you responded to so you agree with it.
What they sell is dictated by the Feds, no matter what channel it is purchased through.
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Old 10-27-2013, 11:17 AM
 
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Your contention is that you know the engine is questionable...You haven't even driven the car off the lot and you complaining about the engine.

Get it home, kick the tires, drive it to gramdma's house for thanksgiving. If it doesnt meet your needs...get rid of it. Just because your neighbor has soured on "Obamamobiles"...Be your own man and make up your own mind.

If ACA does not work for you or your family, work against keeping the law as is.

Well we kicked the tire and it went flat out in the middle of a major highway. So now we get the tow truck to tow it back to the shop. I have a feeling that something is going to be wrong with the engine.
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Old 10-27-2013, 11:22 AM
 
Location: texas
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There are 300,000 being cancelled by one health insurer in Florida alone:

Florida Blue cites Affordable Care Act - Jacksonville Business Journal

I saw an 800,000 number in NJ.

And two insurers in CA were cancelling close to 300,000.

Health insurance cancellation notices soar above Obamacare enrollment rates | The Daily Caller

Millions seems an accurate estimate.
The guy from Fl Blue was on "Meet the Press" this morning. He said that people would be transitioning to different policies. Cancellation does not mean losing, it means going from one plan to another.

These millions have not lost their insurance. Is your health insurance not a yearly contract?
If it is...then you lose your insurance at the end of your policy date by your logic.
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