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Old 10-28-2013, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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False. A company I used to work for paid for our health insurance straight out. That's right, we got FREE health insurance, through the company, no matter what our age. (Meaning, no monthly payments...and before you ask, yes, the deductibles were low.) So it IS possible. Just because it hasn't happened to you doesn't mean it can't happen to others.
I paid $10 about 10 years ago, and now my portion of the premium is $600, so under pre-ACA system I ended up paying 60 times more than before
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Old 10-28-2013, 03:10 PM
 
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This woman's story is just about as real as the stories of people that were on Hannity that were later exposed as knowing zero about what they were talking about in reference to The ACA. Nice try OP, but the scapings at the bottom of your barrel are getting more and more pathetic.

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Old 10-28-2013, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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I paid $10 about 10 years ago, and now my portion of the premium is $600, so under pre-ACA system I ended up paying 60 times more than before
According to Kaiser, $4565 is the average annual employee contribution towards their employer's sponsored health care in 2013. Employee contributions increased 89% between 2000- 2010.
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Old 10-28-2013, 04:10 PM
 
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According to Kaiser, $4565 is the average annual employee contribution towards their employer's sponsored health care in 2013.Employee contributions increased 89% between 2000- 2010.
Which is the problem and that wasn't addressed.
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Old 10-28-2013, 04:12 PM
 
Location: texas
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This woman's story is just about as real as the stories of people that were on Hannity that were later exposed as knowing zero about what they were talking about in reference to The ACA. Nice try OP, but the scapings at the bottom of your barrel are getting more and more pathetic.
I believe they got her name right and that she had a 54$ premium...after that things get murky.
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Old 10-28-2013, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Which is the problem and that wasn't addressed.
Agreed.

The Swiss mandated insurance for everyone back in the 90's.The Swiss do not have Medicare or employer sponsored group health insurance. It's not cheap.

Age 25 and over- $443/mo.
Age 19-25- $429/mo.
Age 0-18-$102/mo.

No family discounts.
Deductible are variable.
Co-pay/insured is 10% with a cap.

About 40% of the population receives government subsidies.
People can take out private insurance to cover what primary insurance does not.

The big difference is that most hospitals are government owned and operated. The cost of Swiss healthcare is a fraction of what it is in the U.S. Their healthcare outcomes are in the top ten despite that 27-30% of the population are smokers.

The point of this is that the nations that spend substantially less on healthcare all have substantially more government involvement in healthcare than the U.S. Their hospitals, medical practices and drug manufacturers do not spend money promoting their brands. Not are their governments lobbied by the likes of the American Hospital Association and Big Pharma.

One is not likely to find a non MD hospital CEO making the equivalent of $4 million/yr while holding the line of the rank and file wages, including MDs, nurses and medical techs.
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Old 10-28-2013, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Wartrace,TN
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The insurance plan I had with a 5000 dollar deductible was 159.00 a month. The new "Affordable care act" plan has a 6000 dollar deductible and costs 260.00 dollars a month.

I can not keep my previous plan. I was lied to. I was told I could keep my current plan if I wanted to. This was not true.

I did not vote for Obama OR Romney. I hate both political crime families equally.
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Old 10-28-2013, 04:36 PM
 
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I posted an example that did exist. I think you just want to hide your head in the sand.

Trader Joe's provided health care for their part time employee's. Now they aren't. So their costs go from $0 to whatever it is. Whatever it is they can't afford it.
Obama told Trader Joe's to drop coverage on their PT employees?
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Old 10-28-2013, 04:38 PM
 
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Obama told Trader Joe's to drop coverage on their PT employees?
Did I say that?
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Old 10-28-2013, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Central Illinois -
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Oh please. $54 a month for insurance? For a 56 year old? Please. what did it cover, a monthly supply of tylenol?

I suppose for those lacking in critical thinking this might spark some outrage. But most of us are probably wondering what the details are.....
It's the Weekly Standard, famous for one thing: being the leading advocate of pushing the WMD's in Iraq storyline 10 years ago.
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