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Cornell's School of Mgmt is considered the best in the country though. I'm sure his decision is working out for him but sometimes it does pay to get into these elite schools even if it sets you back some.
Edward, I cannot argue with you. Going to Cornell would've been a major coup for him.
But it was 7500 bucks a year over what we budgeted even with the financial aid...And I'm not wealthy.
He would've been 3000 miles from home with no pocket money or transportation and I didn't want him to work in his freshman year.
Instead, he went to the Franke School...usually a top ten to top twelve school, and a grad degree from U of A.
Besides, he had a change of heart and decided to become a teacher.
Not to mention the new car and no debt...all while staying in state.
I hear you. Congratulations on your sons acceptance there, that's no small feat.
My oldest will be in pretty much exactly the same boat as yours. He will have to choose between a high level private and debt or someplace cheaper and no debt etc.
You are 100% correct, sky won't fall and an enviable position to be in when you consider people with staggering student debts and so forth.
I don't envy your son. It's a tough decision.
I'm just not so sure that these elite schools are always worth the money.
Uh...have you looked at the way the world works these days? Technology and Engineering is winning, and will continue to only make inroads. These people tend to be "socially awkward," but yet are rewriting the economic and labor environment. Sorry, the jocks and the frat boys are pretty much going to be working for these people. Speaking Mandarin is a BIG plus these days.
Agreed but more like speaking GOOD English is a bigger plus. I say that because China's working age pop is starting to fall like a rock in real numbers and, more and more places IN China are putting up signs in English alongside Chinese.
He's saying that if these institutions become known as Asian Schools, the type of donations these schools get could fall.
Doesn't matter if they have the highest incomes...the schools don't care about that. Asians are a tiny minority. Harvard has a 33 billion dollar endowment...and they need wealthy WHITE PEOPLE to maintain it. And for that to happen, lots of white folks have to be tied to the school somehow. It's not in the financial interest of Brown, Dartmouth, or Harvard to reduce the numbers of whites to admit more Asians.
Moreover, these schools are catacombs of social, financial, and political connections...circles that Asians don't typically run in. That plays a large part in this i'm sure. These are after all WASPY, 200+ year old institutions. Ties run deep. Asians are Johnny-come-lately's.
All that said, it doesn't matter to me if those schools are 100% Asian, but it does matter to certain well connected people when their children can't get into these schools. I'm not one of these well connected people.
I'm not sure how you managed to get 9 pages in without having any clue what this thread is about.
People are arguing that the number of Asian students should not be capped (limited) in the name of diversity. That students should be admitted based on merit and that Asian students should not be punished and denied acceptance because as a whole they overachieve scholastically in the US.
I do understand, what I was pointing out is that the girl in Texas complained that a black kid with the same score supposely took her slot in Texas U and now some Asian kids will soon be accused of the same thing if their numbers are not capped.
He's saying that if these institutions become known as Asian Schools, the type of donations these schools get could fall.
Doesn't matter if they have the highest incomes...the schools don't care about that. Asians are a tiny minority. Harvard has a 33 billion dollar endowment...and they need wealthy WHITE PEOPLE to maintain it. And for that to happen, lots of white folks have to be tied to the school somehow. It's not in the financial interest of Brown, Dartmouth, or Harvard to reduce the numbers of whites to admit more Asians.
This statement makes no sense whatsoever unless you are making a data-less statement that's implying that "Asian" alumni are less likely to endow money to their alma-mater than "Whites."
Private institutions no. They should be allowed to pick whom they want.
It also depends on the type of major. Charisma, personality, creativity can carry you much much further in certain fields than test scores. That's why the guy with the 1400 score that excelled at sports and a number of other things gets chosen over some guy with a 1500 that has a blander resume outside of the scores.
If this was the UK, don't they admit strictly based on academic results? And you can only apply up to a certain amount of schools, correct?
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Agreed but more like speaking GOOD English is a bigger plus. I say that because China's working age pop is starting to fall like a rock in real numbers and, more and more places IN China are putting up signs in English alongside Chinese.
Good English seems to be a problem among English-speaking Americans these days. Scary!
This statement makes no sense whatsoever unless you are making a data-less statement that's implying that "Asian" alumni are less likely to endow money to their alma-mater than "Whites."
Lemme ask you...why do you think they decided on this quota? These people obviously don't hate Asians.
What I do know is that for some years now, there's been a hell of a lot of grumbling by certain people about a perceived takeover of their universities by Asians. And it's not just the Ivies, but at many elite colleges.
For some reason, they don't think that this "take over" (something that I really don't buy) is in their best interest.
The only thing that makes sense to me is either money or something having to do with how they want their schools to be perceived is at the bottom of this.
You said you read the articles, where did it say these proposals were in effect and being practiced?
what "proposals" ?
discrimination does not have to be written on paper as a "proposal" to be real
they ran larry summers out of harvard for his comments about gender. yet on their admissions committee ...
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Lemme ask you...why do you think they decided on this quota? These people obviously don't hate Asians.
discrimination is arguably a form of hate.
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