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Question to you GOP'ers (and anyone else) - Help me understand why the GOP is so ignorant and seems to wish to become a permanent minority party. The decisions by the GOP are quite strange to me, their recent actions don't reflect of a party that has any desire to be a real national party and they consistently vote against the interests of their constituents.
1. Pushing Amnesty - I never understood why there was such an interest by the GOP to bring in millions of people who will likely never vote for the GOP. National polls have shown this, even when the GOP panders exclusively to them. Yet, McCain, and other GOP leaders have a fetish for cheap labor, even if it means destroying the party's ability to ever win a national election again. I understand why the Democrats want it, it will swell their constituency, but the GOP is fooling themselves if they think they'll get any real electoral benefit from mass amnesty. To me, it is strange almost laughable.
2. Sequestration- The GOP votes for Sequestration, and puts up cuts that seriously hurt their interests (namely defense), while the impact to Democrat interests under Sequestration are much more limited. When presented the opportunity to lift sequestration caps during the shutdown, they stubbornly hold to them and willingly continued to cut their nose to spite their face. Again, very strange.
3. Affordable Healthcare and the government shutdown - Rather than making their protest known and capitalizing on the frustrations and negative experiences with the roll out of the ACA, they chose to shutdown the government to make a point. Shifting all the attention away from the problems for nearly a month, they did more to further marginalize themselves in the eyes of the American Electorate.
Worse, instead of offering a viable solution to the ACA or modifying it, they simply wanted to dismantle it. I can't see how this would ever play to the national electorate. Essentially, no matter what your political ideology, the idea of keeping the current broken system, fighting getting more people health insurance coverage and shutting down the government to do so seems like a crazy political strategy.
I can't see how the GOP will be a relevant national party in 10 years, maybe much sooner.
Last edited by GoldenZephyr; 11-01-2013 at 09:15 AM..
There's too much ignorant fail in this OP to even begin.
As long as Democrats are allowed to buy votes with our tax dollars the GOP will continue to lose support, in summary people like free **** and Democrats love to give away free ****.
You answered none of the three questions, yet the three examples I cited are true, the GOP leadership wants Amnesty, wanted Sequestration caps to remain, and tried to stop the ACA (and lost).
You answered none of the three questions, yet the three examples I cited are true, the GOP leadership wants Amnesty, wanted Sequestration caps to remain, and tried to stop the ACA (and lost).
Why?
The GOP, like Democrats, pander to their base. When mainstream America isn't your base then why would you pander or even help them? They take extreme positions because their remaining base is more extreme than it used to be. All the non extremists were pushed out.
When I read the headline of this thread, I knew that the immediate reaction would be the usual denial that they're wrong on the issues with voters, and insistence that voters instead are too stupid or are bought by "handouts."
Thank you for confirming that.
And do please keep thinking it. In fact, you should probably campaign hard on that premise next year.
You answered none of the three questions, yet the three examples I cited are true, the GOP leadership wants Amnesty, wanted Sequestration caps to remain, and tried to stop the ACA (and lost).
Why?
In all seriousness, I think someone pays a non-trivial number of these posters to post here.
As to your OP, I don't think the Tea Party cares about the republican party, I just think they hate -- literally hate -- the democratic party. This seems to be the fire that keeps them going.
Reminds me of 2004 when the repubs were predicting the demise of the dem party. Bwah hah hah.....how did that work out?
Dems are going to lose senate seats (but not full control) in 2014. Hard to jive that with the reps going extinct. lol.
That's because most people don't vote in mid term elections and the GOP does very well when people don't vote, not because the GOP is more popular than the Democrats. Then there is the whole issue of demographics... The GOP can either represent Americans or keep representing old, white men. So far, they refuse to represent Americans.
The GOP, like Democrats, pander to their base. When mainstream America isn't your base then why would you pander or even help them? They take extreme positions because their remaining base is more extreme than it used to be. All the non extremists were pushed out.
Some truth to that, not to mention that the democrats have opened their tent so wide that we essentially have 2 republican parties anymore.
What the "democrat" elite did to the unions in helping the Republicans pass NAFTA and supporting offshoring was the Rubicon.
There is very little difference between the 2 parties in terms of action....although they sure do talk a good game.
Well the tea bagggers are only around because of rigged Congressional districts. Were districts to be actually be competitive again, none of these tea baggers would get nominated and those that did would lose.
The party doesn't have an overall message of amnesty by the way. There is a lot of money coming from corporate interests that benefit from illegal immigration. They're happy to pay people to be against amnesty, so that no real immigration reform happens and the status quo is maintained.
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