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couldn't happen, it would be a violation of the constitution and the separation of powers. once confirmed by congress an impeachment is needed to remove the POTUS.
this is actually covered under the de facto officer doctrine.
I get the second part, but the first part makes no sense. Impeachment should only be for a person who legally holds the office. If an impeachment was required to remove someone who was found to not be constitutionally eligible to be President, then couldn't the Senate set a rather remarkable legal precedent if they fail to convict? If they fail to convict, the ineligible President remains President. That doesn't make sense. I would think that the SCOTUS, acting as a check on the Executive Branch and fulfilling its role as having the final world on interpretation of the law, could make the determination that the President wasn't eligible to hold the office and must vacate immediately.
I get the second part, but the first part makes no sense. Impeachment should only be for a person who legally holds the office.
once congress confirms that person is legally POTUS ( once that term begins ) and only a congressional impeachment can remove him/her. even if the SCOTUS said obama was ineligible today it would still require an impeachment and all decisions until that impeachment would be valid.
If the BC is a forgery and this guys proof is credible,.....
the HI department of health has confirmed all the information on the "long-form" birth certificate (LFBC) is correct, that they sent the LFBC to obama and the physical LFBC was handled and photographed at a WH press conference. for vogt's claim to be correct requires that the WH had a legitimate LFBC ready to scan but instead made an exact duplicate digitally for no other reason than sh*ts-n-giggles.
Wow, two deflections in two posts.
Stay on topic, take your add/adhd meds.
This article is just another one with serious implications and i am just posting it.
I believe in truth and justice unlike some that keep heir heads in the sand.
Your Alinsky tactics are getting boring. Move on to another thread if you cant post something relevant to the article, something mature.
Geeee! I haven't read an "Alinsky" reference since roys disappeared.
Whether you want to believe or talk like adults, this case is pretty interesting.
That would rquire there to be a case. But there is no case here at all. No law suit. Nothing.
This is one guy (and what a guy, we're talking a total nut-burger going back almost 40 years) trying to get a court without jurisdiction to send something that is almost incomprehensible to a grand jury that doesn't exist. For those with any legal understanding, it is weird beyond belief.
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If the BC is a forgery and this guys proof is credible, what should we as US Citizens do?
Might as well ask what chairs would look like if our knees bent backwards. The questions have an equal correspondence with the real universe.
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- vogt had been associated with the maricopa county cold case posse (MCCCP) but now seems to be branching out on his own. was there a falling out?
More like a stalling out. The MCCCP has apparently vanished, nothing being heard from them in more than three weeks. This is almost certainly at least partially due to the discovery that they have been grossly violating their incorporation charter as well as US tax code.
If the birth certificate was proved to be forged, and Obama couldn't produce a good one that wasn't, the Supreme Court would likely order him to leave office immediately.
Actually... no. The Supreme Court has no power whatsoever to remove a sitting president. That power resides entirely and solely with COngress.
Impeachment should only be for a person who legally holds the office.
A lot of people seem to think that. But the Constitution gives no alternative mechanism.
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If an impeachment was required to remove someone who was found to not be constitutionally eligible to be President, then couldn't the Senate set a rather remarkable legal precedent if they fail to convict?
Actually, no. Stare decisis (legal precedent as a binding force in law) is a common law concept that relates only to the courts. It has nothing to do with Congress, and no past act by the Senate holds any binding precedence whatsoever on any future act by them.
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If they fail to convict, the ineligible President remains President.
A fascinating (if wildly improbable) speculation.
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I would think that the SCOTUS, acting as a check on the Executive Branch and fulfilling its role as having the final world on interpretation of the law, could make the determination that the President wasn't eligible to hold the office and must vacate immediately.
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I dunno, that link looks pretty legit. From the link
- We can’t find this crime happening in any other country anyplace in history: a foreign enemy agent – this guy is a Muslim and a member of the Muslim Brotherhood – wound up becoming president by a conspiracy between communists and Islamists to install him in office so he can destroy the country from within.
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