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One should also remember the salaries of his staff, office rent, supplies, equipment, etc.
Or do you think that the money for all that just magically appears, the Dr. doesn't have to pay it out of what the practice earns?
Of course. Maybe the Doctor should just work harder? Maybe a second job? Pull him/herself up by their bootstraps...
You would think that when your political party is burying a hole that is getting harder and harder to get out of, you wouldn't want to that hole get deeper faster. Kathleen Murphy, Democrat running for the Virginia House of Delegates, believes it should law to force doctors to accept Medicare and Medicaid patients. Forced by government decree, mind you.
Sounds like Kathleen Murphy is angling for some votes...
The OP stated no one would become doctors. The article states that there are more medical school applicants and doctors being trained than ever before.
Just pointing out that when you look at these little things called facts, as usual, the OP is full of crap.
Like what? You think your doctor should get a job flipping burgers?
It's not fair that the person with the Ph.D. in sociology who wants to make the world a better place has to do it while the greedy doctor who is myopic and lacks sophistimicated coffee house faux-intellectualism doesn't.
Those 'Euro' docs do a pretty good job keep their patients alive:
For life expectancy the US is 33rd behind:
Switzerland
Italy
Iceland
Spain
Monaco
France
Sweden
Luxemborgue
Norway
Cyprus
Netherlands
Greece
Austria
Greece
Ireland
Finland
Germany
UK
Belgium
Malta
Portugal
Denmark...
I look forward to our Ukranian quality single payer system. Where are they on the list? Just curious.
The OP stated no one would become doctors. The article states that there are more medical school applicants and doctors being trained than ever before.
Just pointing out that when you look at these little things called facts, as usual, the OP is full of crap.
that is right now. how many doctors are seriously thinking about getting OUT of the field because of all the new government regulations coming on line?
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Originally Posted by GoldenZephyr
Its not slavery, if they want to practice medicine in this country, they need to be willing to take patients. If they don't, there are others who will take their place.
I also second that there is an artificial shortage of doctors created by the AMA, just to keep salaries high.
Plenty of people want to become doctors. The outmoded way that instruction is given and artificial scarcity has limited the number of people who could effectively practice medicine.
it absolutely IS slavery when you force someone to do what they dont want to do.
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Originally Posted by KickAssArmyChick
I don't think people realize how many regulations Medicare and Medicaid have. I am a Medicare biller and I deal with said regulations every single day. Prior to that I worked with Blue Cross which wasn't nearly as bad.
Medicare and Medicaid have a very low reimbursement rate compared to private insurances. Regulations and a low rate of pay are the main reasons why providers refrain from treating patients with a certain insurance carrier. Medicaid in NH for example has had a lot of issues lately. We haven't been able to bill out in 3 months. We have over 5 million dollars in claims that cannot be billed out because of a glitch in their system that has yet to be fixed. Can you imagine an independent provider having to wait that long to be reimbursed? The business would go broke! People seem to forget physicians need a source of income too.
absolutely right. that is one thing i have railed against for years, and that is the excessive cost of government regulations. i would bet that you are just one of a staff of people dealing with these regulations in your office.
hmm, yeah lets look at the gross, and forget that doctors have expenses also, like malpractice insurance, which can run as high as $200,000 per year, not to mention paying medical staffers, and student loans, and professional fees, and continuing education, not to mention that they may actually want to support their families, you know a spouse and children. these people work for a living, and they shouldnt have to take a pay cut, unless they want to, to treat patients.
Those 'Euro' docs do a pretty good job keep their patients alive:
For life expectancy the US is 33rd behind:
Switzerland
Italy
Iceland
Spain
Monaco
France
Sweden
Luxemborgue
Norway
Cyprus
Netherlands
Greece
Austria
Greece
Ireland
Finland
Germany
UK
Belgium
Malta
Portugal
Denmark...
Exactly, single payer works better in most of those countries with better outcomes than the US. Artificial scarcity to drive up wages by the AMA is a huge problem. The process for medical school is unnecessarily difficult and more akin to the hazing and abuse of fraternity that does little to improve outcomes. Plus the unnecessary abuse of interns just because it's tradition. Why, to create barriers that keeps the supply pool lower.
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