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Old 11-06-2013, 09:22 AM
 
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What else did Obama promise that he is lying about?
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Old 11-06-2013, 09:36 AM
 
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They are fully aware right now that had the Employer Mandate taken effect when it was slated to be the cancellations would be much greater today instead of delayed until later.
I think a load of D's in Congress believed the lie as much as the public. They didn't know the bill's specifics and are too busy fund-raising to read what the CBO and others were writing. If by 'they,' you mean Obama, Sebelius, Treasury, etc., sure they knew.

I'm hoping against hope that enough D's privately feel hoodwinked, grasp how many workers will be screwed next year, and turn Obama's lie into a belated truth.
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Old 11-06-2013, 09:43 AM
 
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You guys are right. Obama should have dumbed down his statement for idiots like the ones here on CD.
Most of us understood not only his statements, but also how ridiculous they were. He was even asked about it because the whole dam thing made no sense, and he double downed on his reply.

I guess the question is, why did idiots believe him, even the point they STILL blame others on the right
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Old 11-06-2013, 09:44 AM
 
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What else did Obama promise that he is lying about?
I actually seen an obama administration rep yesterday being interviewed about the ACA fallout, and their response was, Ask Bin Laden about our healthcare system..

I was completely amazed that he wasnt even embarassed to say something that dumb.
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Old 11-06-2013, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Everybody in government has either an excuse or another name to blame it on.

Max Baucus authored the bill. Pelosi and Reid pushed it through Congress. Obama signed it.

100% Dem. Is this what the future holds as the Dems want total control ? They had it for 2 years and this is the result of that.
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Old 11-06-2013, 10:08 AM
 
Location: South Bay
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Actually what is different about this is that this lie will hit his supporters in their wallets. Obama supporters were all for helping the poor until it hit their wallet.
Obama's team held large focus groups of the twenty-somethings, and they didn't have a single positive result. Students will scream and shout about how Obamacare is a great and wonderful thing, until they have to spend $200-300 a month to be in it. Nearly every student polled said they'd pay the $95yr fine rather than enroll.

This is wise and hypocritical at the same time.

Healthy young, key to Obamacare, aren

I reiterate; the younger crowd, who are most responsible for bringing this megalomaniac into power, are the very people being exploited the most. We now understand that this is nothing more than a wealth grab designed to line the pockets of the insurance companies, and now Obama is blaming them.

He is a political coward!
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Old 11-06-2013, 10:19 AM
 
Location: South Bay
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What else did Obama promise that he is lying about?

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I actually seen an obama administration rep yesterday being interviewed about the ACA fallout, and their response was, Ask Bin Laden about our healthcare system..

I was completely amazed that he wasnt even embarassed to say something that dumb.
I can't believe all the rephrasing of terms.

Instead of saying "failure" they say "less successful" and one person from the DNC likened the people who are losing their insurance to bicycles and cars. He said their plans need to be a car' "a bicycle isn't a car!" In other words he was saying that all these people don't really have insurance. A complete disconnect from reality.

I'm surprised they haven't started blaming Bush for the ACA failure. As for Bin Laden; if this continues plenty of people will die and they may actually be able to ask Bin Laden what he thinks.
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Old 11-06-2013, 04:20 PM
 
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"I want to speak plainly, clearly, honestly, about what it means for you and for the people you care about.
Now, let’s start with the fact that even before the Affordable Care Act fully takes effect, about 85 percent of Americans already have health insurance -– either through their job, or through Medicare, or through the individual market. So if you’re one of these folks, it’s reasonable that you might worry whether health care reform is going to create changes that are a problem for you -- especially when you’re bombarded with all sorts of fear-mongering.

So the first thing you need to know is this: If you already have health care, you don’t have to do anything. In fact, for the past few years, since I signed the Affordable Care Act, a lot of you have been enjoying new benefits and protections that you didn’t before even if you didn’t know they were coming from Obamacare. " (Applause.)

-- Barack Obama

You've been Obamanated!
It is shocking how sleazy he is. So disingenuous.
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Old 11-06-2013, 04:21 PM
 
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I think a load of D's in Congress believed the lie as much as the public. They didn't know the bill's specifics and are too busy fund-raising to read what the CBO and others were writing. If by 'they,' you mean Obama, Sebelius, Treasury, etc., sure they knew.

I'm hoping against hope that enough D's privately feel hoodwinked, grasp how many workers will be screwed next year, and turn Obama's lie into a belated truth.
I suspect they are too stupid to figure it out.
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Old 11-06-2013, 04:40 PM
 
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"It is better to offer no excuse than a bad one" George Washington
"There are three types of lies~lies,damn lies and statistics " Benjamin Disraeli
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