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There seems to be a controversy on this message board and MSNBC as to whether President Obama lied when he said, again and again, "If you like your insurance plan, you can keep it. Period."
Did he lie or was he telling the truth?
I think crying conservos have found another weeping point.
I find it reasonable to think a lot of people were unaware of the fact that non compliant plans would go away, particularly with their reliance on info from the people who are now pretending to have not known. Anybody who listened and researched the ACA thru 2009 and 2010 during the development process, don't find the bad plan drops at all surprising, in fact they were expecting that to occur.
So you knew he was lying all the time and still supported him.
Don't care. Politicians lie. As I always say, I didn't vote for him last November. But when he's gone, I'm sure the American people will elect another Democrat or Republican to keep carrying this country into deeper mess.
What you fail to get is the fact that the president said 28 times in public speeches if we liked our insurance we would get to keep it, and that families would save an average of $2,500/year.
I find it reasonable to think a lot of people were unaware of the fact that non compliant plans would go away, particularly with their reliance on info from the people who are now pretending to have not known. Anybody who listened and researched the ACA thru 2009 and 2010 during the development process, don't find the bad plan drops at all surprising, in fact they were expecting that to occur.
I find it interesting that you post on this thread, but refuse to vote.
Are you in fact starting to grow a conscience in regards to Obama? You can't find it in your heart to vote that Obama didn't lie...since it is obvious to anyone thinking that Obama has lied on this and then lied about the lie...
Yet you still have an emotional attachment to Obama and couldn't force yourself to vote for him having lied as you have always been a loyally devout Obama supporter.
I would encourage you to vote and vote while thinking and vote with integrity. Don't be a blind sheep Obamabot.
Posters are watching you, be brave enough to vote.
Curious use of the word "I" in his quasi-apology on the National Barrack Channel interview yesterday.
Just can't quite bring himself to say "sorry" I guess.
So you knew he was lying all the time and still supported him.
No they didn't. They had no clue. They believed him hook, line and sinker.
They are just acting now like they knew this all along.
The details of Obamacare with restrictions, changes, mandates didn't come out until a year after the bill was passed. The bill itself had no details.
HHS/IRS made up the rules. And so far the rules and waivers/exemptions all favor big business, unions, and other "special friends".
Here's an example for a grandfathered plan:
Individual: If your premium changes then your plan is no longer grandfathered. Who doesn't get a premium change each year ?
Corporation: They can change insurers and plans and still be grandfathered. A new plan under a new insurer is grandfathered ?
How fair is that ?
In 2010 over 56% insured were in grandfathered plans. In 2013 that figure is now 36% insured are in grandfathered plans and those are in group plans run by corporations.
I'm retired. My company switched from United Healthcare to Aetna since Obamacare got signed and I'm in a "grandfathered plan".
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