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Old 11-06-2013, 12:58 PM
 
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America currently spends a bit less than 20% of the GDP on health care.

If the laws were written so that:

More Americans get coverage
Insurance companies cover more diseases
The cost of healthcare is evenly divided between the middle class and the rich
Employers would have to choose between paying more and dropping coverage altogether



...It makes perfect sense that the average American will be paying much more to stay healthy, especially if their employer isn't, and especially if they are getting more services in return. This is what happens when you subsidize and/or cure the sick/dying poor that have diseases that are expensive to treat.
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Old 11-06-2013, 01:01 PM
 
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...It makes perfect sense that the average American will be paying much more to stay healthy, especially if their employer isn't, and especially if they are getting more services in return. This is what happens when you subsidize and/or cure the sick/dying poor that have diseases that are expensive to treat.
See middle class, the entitlement class thinks you are rich and should pay more. As TheHurricaneKid said, it makes perfect sense that "the average American" should pay more.

He thinks "YOU'RE RICH"
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Old 11-06-2013, 01:23 PM
 
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See middle class, the entitlement class thinks you are rich and should pay more. As TheHurricaneKid said, it makes perfect sense that "the average American" should pay more.

He thinks "YOU'RE RICH"
I never said the middle class was rich, I only said that it was logical for middle class to pay a.high premium because the way the law was written.
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Old 11-06-2013, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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I never said the middle class was rich, I only said that it was logical for middle class to pay a.high premium because the way the law was written.
So we're going to just ignore the "Affordable" part of the law now?
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Old 11-06-2013, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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What you are missing is that with a larger pool that contains potentially younger and healthier people, the average declines. Moreover, the ACA mandates that 85% of premiums must be paid in medical care, unlike before.
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Old 11-06-2013, 01:39 PM
 
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So we're going to just ignore the "Affordable" part of the law now?
The name of a law has no meaning compared to the actual law.
At any rate, the Affordable Care Act does make care affordable for certain people.
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Old 11-06-2013, 01:40 PM
 
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America currently spends a bit less than 20% of the GDP on health care.

If the laws were written so that:

More Americans get coverage
Insurance companies cover more diseases
The cost of healthcare is evenly divided between the middle class and the rich
Employers would have to choose between paying more and dropping coverage altogether



...It makes perfect sense that the average American will be paying much more to stay healthy, especially if their employer isn't, and especially if they are getting more services in return. This is what happens when you subsidize and/or cure the sick/dying poor that have diseases that are expensive to treat.
Just out of curiosity Hurricane - how old are you and what do you do?
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Old 11-06-2013, 01:42 PM
 
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The name of a law has no meaning compared to the actual law.
At any rate, the Affordable Care Act does make care affordable for certain people.
Just like Obamas sales pitch has no meaning. "If you like your insurance you can keep your insurance". Why should the word "Affordable" have any meaning.
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Old 11-06-2013, 01:42 PM
 
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Just out of curiosity Hurricane - how old are you and what do you do?
I'm 22 and a novice computer programmer.
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Old 11-06-2013, 01:43 PM
 
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The name of a law has no meaning compared to the actual law.
At any rate, the Affordable Care Act does make care affordable for certain people.
Yeah, pretty much the elderly portion of our population and thats about it
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