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A tea party supporter who tears into Obama. That's about as shocking as Catholics observing Lent.
Rather than attacking the person who wrote the letter, how about refuting something that she wrote? After all, by attacking the source you are implying that the accusations are unfounded... so let's see you prove it.
Rather than attacking the person who wrote the letter, how about refuting something that she wrote? After all, by attacking the source you are implying that the accusations are unfounded... so let's see you prove it.
What she says is most interesting. Even more interesting is this is EXACTLY what progressives have been saying for years, only to be told by cons that it's too bad, so sad, but healthcare isn't a right, and if you can't afford it, clearly you don't deserve it because you should have gotten a better job, kept your legs together, or planned better.
How many hundreds of posts saying exactly that are there here on C-D --- hundreds, in fact, just posted on the day the exchanges opened a month ago.
So ... now you cons suddenly care? Really? I believe you ... thousands wouldn't.
What she says is most interesting. Even more interesting is this is EXACTLY what progressives have been saying for years, only to be told by cons that it's too bad, so sad, but healthcare isn't a right, and if you can't afford it, clearly you don't deserve it because you should have gotten a better job, kept your legs together, or planned better.
How many hundreds of posts saying exactly that are there here on C-D --- hundreds, in fact, just posted on the day the exchanges opened a month ago.
So ... now you cons suddenly care? Really? I believe you ... thousands wouldn't.
First, I'm not a conservative.
Second, it wasn't conservatives who decided to yank affordable health insurance plans out from under people and replace those plans with new ones which many can't afford.
We have some people planning on getting a divorce so they can afford the increase costs under ObamaCare. Puts a new twist on the "marriage penalty" doesn't it?
“After Obamacare has rolled out, we realized that we would save thousands of dollars if we got divorced,” Aronowitz said. The issue for Aronowitz and Cassara is that together as family of only two, they make more than the $62,000 level to qualify for subsidies under the Affordable Care Act. But if they lived together unmarried, they would qualify for the subsidies and could literally save hundreds of dollars a month on their health care.
And then we have people being screwed over by ObamaCare, knowing that they are, and even though it's going to cost them $10,000 more a year.
They are even thinking about trying to lower their family income to qualify for a taxpayer subsidy... and they are still Obama pom-pom waivers.
San Francisco architect Lee Hammack says he and his wife, JoEllen Brothers, are “cradle Democrats.” They have donated to the liberal group Organizing for America and worked the phone banks a year ago for President Obama’s re-election. The couple — Lee, 60, and JoEllen, 59 — have been paying $550 a month for their health coverage — a plan that offers solid coverage, not one of the skimpy plans Obama has criticized. But recently, Kaiser informed them the plan would be canceled at the end of the year because it did not meet the requirements of the Affordable Care Act. The couple would need to find another one. The cost would be around double what they pay now, but the benefits would be worse.
I’ve been skeptical about media stories featuring those who claimed they would be worse off because their insurance policies were being canceled on account of the ACA.
So I tried to find flaws in what Hammack told me. I couldn’t find any.
You can't make this stuff up, Obama'crats are hopeless slaves to government.
“We’re not changing our views because of this situation, but it hurt to hear Obama saying, just the other day, that if our plan has been dropped it’s because it wasn’t any good, and our costs would go up only slightly,” he said. “We’re gratified that the press is on the case, but frustrated that the stewards of the ACA don’t seem to have heard.”
You do realize health insurance companies can and do collude? They do not have to abide by anti-trust, they are exempt. So, I would not put anything past that racket.
Source? Especially coming from you.....a source is definitely needed.
First, I'm not a conservative.
Second, it wasn't conservatives who decided to yank affordable health insurance plans out from under people and replace those plans with new ones which many can't afford.
The idea that you could put in provisions that remove lifetime maximums, don't let you deny coverage for pre-existing conditions etc etc etc.....and the price won't go up?
I mean seriously.
What do these rocket scientists think would happen if the govt. passed a law banning deductibles on car insurance and increasing mandatory limits to 500k?
OMG prices went up because the coverage and benefits got better! That's impossible!
TPM is a respected source and not a conspiracy site like infowars.
An the topic, insurance companies are required to change their policies to conform to the minimum standards of the ACA. What companies have been slyly doing is offering alternative plans that are more expensive and not telling the policy holder that they might do better on the exchanges. They also don't mention subsidies that might be available.
I've had to hear your fellow lwnjs tell me that one of the great things about Obamacare is the consumer protections in it like the 80% loss ratio trigger.
So now they are going to be able to get away with gouging people?
Which is it because the sides of your mouths have to be getting chafed.
Rather than attacking the person who wrote the letter, how about refuting something that she wrote?
Saying a person supports the tea party (Which she does. I checked her out on FB like a good little poster) is attacking the person?
Tell us more. If I call Mitt Romney a Republican am I attacking him? Let's see.... if I call General Schwarzkopf a solder am I attacking him? Or is the tea party so paranoid and feeling so dang sorry for themselves for dissolving into a puddle of goo as we watch that mentioning someone is a supporter it's now considered an attack? Yeah, lol. Must be the puddle of goo thing.
Saying a person supports the tea party (Which she does. I checked her out on FB like a good little poster) is attacking the person?
Tell us more. If I call Mitt Romney a Republican am I attacking him? Let's see.... if I call General Schwarzkopf a solder am I attacking him? Or is the tea party so paranoid and feeling so dang sorry for themselves for dissolving into a puddle of goo as we watch that mentioning someone is a supporter it's now considered an attack? Yeah, lol. Must be the puddle of goo thing.
Implying that someone's opinion isn't valid simply because their beliefs don't match lock-step with yours is an attack.
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Loyaly, and useful idiots
