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Old 11-07-2013, 11:54 AM
 
Location: California
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Sounds like a typical fight with an insurance company, like we've been doing FOREVER. I've done it myself. I was taken by ambulance to my "in network" hospital when I broke my ankle. I don't remember the details now but ONE of the folks tending to me gave me drugs so knock me out so they could adjust it and that guy was not contracted under my health plan. They tried to change me for whatever he did as "out of network" but I appealed saying I had no choice in the WHO'S that took care of me that day, only the WHERE'S, so I had done my part. They eventually agreed with me. This isn't even ACA related.
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Old 11-07-2013, 01:36 PM
 
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I wonder why this 65 year old man is not on Medicare?
The Government forces you to enroll when you are 65.
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Old 11-07-2013, 02:37 PM
 
Location: South Bay
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Sounds like a typical fight with an insurance company, like we've been doing FOREVER. I've done it myself. I was taken by ambulance to my "in network" hospital when I broke my ankle. I don't remember the details now but ONE of the folks tending to me gave me drugs so knock me out so they could adjust it and that guy was not contracted under my health plan. They tried to change me for whatever he did as "out of network" but I appealed saying I had no choice in the WHO'S that took care of me that day, only the WHERE'S, so I had done my part. They eventually agreed with me. This isn't even ACA related.
Could you imagine the hoops you'd have to jump through when negotiating with a government bureaucrat instead of a hospital billing admin, or insurance company?


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Old 11-07-2013, 02:41 PM
 
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Oh, okay. You are just making things up again.

I am very glad I taught my kids the proper morals that doing that is wrong. I guess some people didn't have proper parenting growing up.
Then exhibit them yourself, and stop being dishonest.
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Old 11-07-2013, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Could you imagine the hoops you'd have to jump through when negotiating with a government bureaucrat instead of a hospital billing admin, or insurance company?


Well, you might have a point but in every Obamacare policy you will be negotiating with an insurance company and not the government. Obamacare is a private insurance system. Now Medicare is a government system. Interesting though, the old people seem to love it and would fight tooth and nail to keep it the way it is.
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Old 11-07-2013, 04:20 PM
 
Location: South Bay
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Well, you might have a point but in every Obamacare policy you will be negotiating with an insurance company and not the government. Obamacare is a private insurance system. Now Medicare is a government system. Interesting though, the old people seem to love it and would fight tooth and nail to keep it the way it is.
I'm sorry, I was looking at the bigger picture. It has become blatantly apparent that Obamacare was only a back door to single payer. When/If this happens, a government bureaucrat will be deciding your healthcare options.
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Old 11-07-2013, 04:29 PM
 
Location: North America
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After stepping out of the shower and collapsing in his bathroom, one man woke up in the hospital 12 days later – with a $150,000 hospital bill.

According to a report by azcentral.com, 65-year-old Scott Richardson was transported unconscious to Mayo Clinic Hospital in Scottsdale, Ariz., in February after passing out and hitting his head on the bathroom floor.


Man passes out in bathroom, wakes up in hospital with $150,000 bill | Fox News

...ouch
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Old 11-07-2013, 04:35 PM
 
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I'm sorry, I was looking at the bigger picture. It has become blatantly apparent that Obamacare was only a back door to single payer. When/If this happens, a government bureaucrat will be deciding your healthcare options.
*crosses fingers*
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Old 11-07-2013, 05:28 PM
 
Location: USA - midwest
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Default News, Man passes out in bathroom, wakes up in hospital with $150,000 bill

Ah, yes...

The beauty of the private health care system.
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Old 11-07-2013, 05:41 PM
 
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Could you imagine the hoops you'd have to jump through when negotiating with a government bureaucrat instead of a hospital billing admin, or insurance company?
I've dealt with more government bureaucracy than most, what with being an immigrant and all. And I would rather take on the INS (as we called it) 7 days a week and twice on Sunday than deal with our incredibly rotten prescription medicine service.

Why? Because the government bureaucracy doesn't have a direct economic incentive to scr.w me, but the insurance company does - and they will. They do.

Trying to convince a call center employee in Bangalore that no, I never had the generic and no, I will not take their earnest $.50/hour assurance that the generic "is just as as good" over my doctor's recommendation and no, I don't believe that their supervisors are changing shifts and can't be reached, and no, I don't believe that the fax "has gone missing" - it's the 7th circle of hell.

Give me the DMV, the INS, the IRS and the damn LADOT - they may be slow and cumbersome, but they're rarely malevolent.
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