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Old 11-07-2013, 07:52 AM
 
Location: texas
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It seams you are on c-d all the time. You must have missed one of the many threads over the past yr about 30 hrs is the new 40.
Maybe it has more to do that I've been retired for two years and my last contract was based on 40 hours.

Most people I know still work 40 hour work weeks with overtime over 40.
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Old 11-07-2013, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Foolishness? Please explain how preventing MILLIONS of people from losing their insurance is foolish? Democrats up for re-election next year are the ones who this is a no-win situation for....and they deserve it.
The law requires that the insurance company must provide an alternate policy that meets minimum ACA requirements. Nobody is really getting dropped who wants insurance.
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Old 11-07-2013, 07:55 AM
 
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Maybe it has more to do that I've been retired for two years and my last contract was based on 40 hours.

Most people I know still work 40 hour work weeks with overtime over 40.
Overtime? Whats that?

I have either worked salary (40 turned into 50hrs) or for myself. I dont pay attention to hrs worked other than its more than 40... I have never worked a job that paid overtime wages.
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Old 11-07-2013, 07:57 AM
 
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What basic principle?
That we not waste time and tax dollars on political grandstanding, for one.

The ACA allowed the insurance companies to grandfather these plans in. The INSURANCE COMPANIES made business decisions to cancel the plans. And Mr Cantor knows this. This law, even if passed, would change nothing. Insurance companies are not going to cover pre-existing conditions, and the sick and the elderly, unless they can cover those costs. And they have decided to cover those costs by cancelling existing policies, blaming it on the ACA, and moving people into more expensive coverages. Because of the cap on profits, the insurance companies are not served by offering a plethora of coverages. They need each policy they offer to cover a large pool of people, sick and healthy. Otherwise, they will be reimbursing some people on policies because the profit margin is too high, and they will simultaneously be losing money on policies that cover a pool of people who are not healthy. Business-wise, they need to merge the pools so that they achieve the profits allowed by law, but don't exceed the profits allowed by law. So cancelling policies is a business decision. Which Mr Cantor understands. But as a Republican, he'd rather waste our tax dollars and Congress's time on partisanship.
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Old 11-07-2013, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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The law requires that the insurance company must provide an alternate policy that meets minimum ACA requirements. Nobody is really getting dropped who wants insurance.
And the insurers are running a scam with this as well. At the center where I work, the people come in with letters that offer a new policy that is priced much higher than these people can buy if they go to another insurer or another product on the exchange. The insurers try to up sell them to PPO, out of network plans when they have no need for such a broad coverage. There are other providers that have good HMO plans for slightly more than half of what the cancelling companies are recommending. Most people coming in think they have to use the plan the letter suggests, from what I have been told by the people who assist them. The workers help them to understand all the terms surrounding the health insurance and find a plan that will work for them. Then, you have knuckleheads on this forum saying the navigators are criminals in Nigeria. The disinformation from the right and their buds in the insurance industry is really hurting people in this rollout.
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Old 11-07-2013, 08:07 AM
 
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The law requires that the insurance company must provide an alternate policy that meets minimum ACA requirements. Nobody is really getting dropped who wants insurance.
What version of reality are you living in? Millions of people are being dropped and are being offered alternative plans that are more expensive for the same coverage. Do you live in the real world like the rest of us?
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Old 11-07-2013, 08:19 AM
 
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What version of reality are you living in? Millions of people are being dropped and are being offered alternative plans that are more expensive for the same coverage. Do you live in the real world like the rest of us?
Bots only know what they are told.
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Old 11-07-2013, 08:21 AM
 
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Bots only know what they are told.
The irony is breathtaking.
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Old 11-07-2013, 08:24 AM
 
Location: it depends
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The law requires that the insurance company must provide an alternate policy that meets minimum ACA requirements. Nobody is really getting dropped who wants insurance.
I love my new ObamaJunk policy with the higher deductible and 50% coinsurance and higher total out of pocket. It is sooo much better.
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Old 11-07-2013, 08:25 AM
 
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This vote will be used against EVERY Democrat who votes against it next year at election time. And at that time all the people with employer insurance will face the same issue of being forced into plans that are costlier, with worse coverage and skimpy networks. This is important.

And if it actually passed the House and Senate, Obama would have to sign or veto it.

Nail them to the wall with their bs.
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