Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 11-09-2013, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
46,001 posts, read 35,028,156 times
Reputation: 7875

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by BentBow View Post
Yes and I have never been told it was inadequate/substandard.

It has been working for us for 11 years, now they are forcing us to change our policy. For the same coverage we will be paying $14,000 a year more, for my family of 3.

If we go with the same premium cost, our coverage is minimal, more substandard then what we have now.
You pay $14K+ a year for auto insurance?! That is insane!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 11-09-2013, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Cape Coral
5,503 posts, read 7,302,660 times
Reputation: 2249
Quote:
Originally Posted by Weichert View Post
Ah, you should but you don't. If ACA fails it'll take the insurance companies with it. There is no going back. And then in the resulting chaos a workable solution will emerge. Probably a single payer insurance type like Medicare for all.

The more you people fight ACA the quicker single payer gets here.
No way the ACA can be fixed. It is not even insurance anymore, but a government benefit for those that get the subsidies. The only course now is to let the ACA anger so many people that the GOP, and hopefully conservatives, take over the senate and keep the house next year. Then let's see King Obama veto all of the changes that will be voted on by congress. That would doom the democrats for 2016 and the ACA could finally be put to death.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-09-2013, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
46,001 posts, read 35,028,156 times
Reputation: 7875
Quote:
Originally Posted by rikoshaprl View Post
No way the ACA can be fixed. It is not even insurance anymore, but a government benefit for those that get the subsidies. The only course now is to let the ACA anger so many people that the GOP, and hopefully conservatives, take over the senate and keep the house next year. Then let's see King Obama veto all of the changes that will be voted on by congress. That would doom the democrats for 2016 and the ACA could finally be put to death.
You keep hoping, it is gonna be funny to watch you guys try to figure what went wrong in 2014 after the election like you all were doing after the election in 2012.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-09-2013, 09:27 PM
 
26,855 posts, read 15,085,917 times
Reputation: 11883
Quote:
Originally Posted by urbanlife78 View Post
Well by that logic, no living, no insurance.




No, you chose whether you have a car and pay tax on doing so if you do.
ACA taxes you for doing nothing.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-09-2013, 09:41 PM
 
10,181 posts, read 10,211,880 times
Reputation: 9252
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fancy-Schmancy View Post
All the men crying about having to cover maternity and other 'female' care.

We women have been covering your prostate and testicular cancer care for years. We don't whine about it. Women have been paying higher premiums for years because being a woman is a pre-existing condition according to most insurance companies.

Healthy babies and mothers are good for the country. If you have to pay an extra $1 a year for it, too bad.

By the way, the people who dropped you are an insurance company...not the gov't. It would take almost nothing for an insurance company to improve their policies to meet federal standards -- like car companies, food companies, and the rest. But they'd rather drop you or sell you something more expensive. So go be mad at the right people instead of blaming all your woes on the President.
I think apples need to be compared to apples. Women also get cancer of the uterus, cervix, ovaries, endometrium, etc.

Getting pregnant and keeping the pregnancy is usually a choice.

Getting glandular cancer or cancer of reproductive organs usually isn't.

So insurance companies just dropped/cancelled policies for no reason? No. They did it because the standards have changed DUE to the community organizer enforcing his ACA.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-09-2013, 09:46 PM
 
26,855 posts, read 15,085,917 times
Reputation: 11883
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chimuelojones View Post
He didn't even declare that his policy was substandard...or who declared it to be.



Did you read the thread title?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-09-2013, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
6,046 posts, read 4,794,395 times
Reputation: 3544
Quote:
Originally Posted by rikoshaprl View Post
No way the ACA can be fixed. It is not even insurance anymore, but a government benefit for those that get the subsidies. The only course now is to let the ACA anger so many people that the GOP, and hopefully conservatives, take over the senate and keep the house next year. Then let's see King Obama veto all of the changes that will be voted on by congress. That would doom the democrats for 2016 and the ACA could finally be put to death.
You may as we'll revert back to selling magic potions and relying on the miracle cures of leaches and everyone handling snakes than to depend on the current crop of tea baggers in congress to do anything constructive.

And so, on to a single payer system.

Last edited by Weichert; 11-09-2013 at 10:21 PM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-09-2013, 11:27 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
46,001 posts, read 35,028,156 times
Reputation: 7875
Quote:
Originally Posted by bluesjuke View Post
No, you chose whether you have a car and pay tax on doing so if you do.
ACA taxes you for doing nothing.
Well you choose to live or not. If you hate ACA so much you could always kill yourself so you wouldn't have to pay for it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-10-2013, 12:26 AM
 
Location: Dangling from a mooses antlers
7,308 posts, read 14,620,247 times
Reputation: 6237
Quote:
Originally Posted by weltschmerz View Post
Ok, Madame Cleo. Look into your crystal ball and tell us who will suffer from what.
Why are Canadian's worried about health care in the United States? Because Canada's health care system sucks. That's why soooooo many Canadian's come to the US for health care.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-10-2013, 05:53 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
22,974 posts, read 26,889,996 times
Reputation: 15644
Quote:
Originally Posted by Weichert View Post
Ah, you should but you don't. If ACA fails it'll take the insurance companies with it. There is no going back. And then in the resulting chaos a workable solution will emerge. Probably a single payer insurance type like Medicare for all.

The more you people fight ACA the quicker single payer gets here.
Which was/is exactly the idea when this debacle started but they knew that it wasn't possible right out of the gate.
I guess this is what's called "step therapy"?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top