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View Poll Results: Consequence for doctor refusing Medicare/Medicaid patients?
Nothing, and I support their decision. 128 69.57%
Nothing, however I do not support their decision. 21 11.41%
Force them to take at least x% (e.g. 50%) of patients or lose license 19 10.33%
Revoke license immediately (can only practice at VA hospitals as punishment) 1 0.54%
Revoke license (unconditionally and permanently) 2 1.09%
Revoke license, jail (felony charge) 0 0%
Revoke license, hard labor (to better understand what it means to be a commoner) 4 2.17%
Capital punishment 9 4.89%
Voters: 184. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-02-2014, 02:37 PM
 
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I think it's because Medicare takes too long to pay up, plus medicare will stretch it out fighting with your secondary insurance .
Sorta like this Houston Hospital - they are owed 3 Million dollars and haven't paid their staff in almost a month.

Slow Medicare payments to Hospitals

The problem is going to grow beyond the doctors that won't take Medicare and Medicaid patients. Doctors are also worried about the new Individual policies that have the multi-thousand dollar deductibles. They are afraid these patients won't be able to pay their bills.

The Federal Government can't force Doctors to work without being paid. Period.
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Old 01-02-2014, 04:10 PM
 
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Easy, Your license will not be renewed in the state you are practicing in. A condition of having the privilege of a government sponsored medical license is to accept government provided insurance, since you are requesting the privilege of a government license to practice medicine. You want to profit via government licensing monopoly, then you need to accept government insurance. See it goes both ways.

The option is to opt out or petition for higher reimbursements.

Of course the clear answer is to just go single payer with a cash/supplemental insurance option. That would pretty much solve most of the problems.
That's what we had before government got involved in the first place, decades ago. We had a single payer system, just like everything else that works that way .. the person receiving the service is the single payer responsible for the bill, as it should be.
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Old 01-03-2014, 09:37 AM
 
Location: S.E. US
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Sorta like this Houston Hospital - they are owed 3 Million dollars and haven't paid their staff in almost a month.

Slow Medicare payments to Hospitals

The problem is going to grow beyond the doctors that won't take Medicare and Medicaid patients. Doctors are also worried about the new Individual policies that have the multi-thousand dollar deductibles. They are afraid these patients won't be able to pay their bills.

The Federal Government can't force Doctors to work without being paid. Period.
And we can't and shouldn't expect anyone to work without being paid. Yet, the government has been big enough and powerful enough to be able to set the rates; that seems to be coming to an end. At some point people will say "enough".
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Old 01-04-2014, 07:50 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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And we can't and shouldn't expect anyone to work without being paid. Yet, the government has been big enough and powerful enough to be able to set the rates; that seems to be coming to an end. At some point people will say "enough".
The problem is, when that happens will it be too late to make an orderly change?
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Old 01-04-2014, 08:03 AM
 
Location: S.E. US
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The problem is, when that happens will it be too late to make an orderly change?
I hear you. It would not be an orderly change, but neither has this been an orderly implementation.
It is survivable, if people stop playing political games for gain and points, and start doing the right thing.

IF doctors finally say 'enough', and devise other forms of their practice policies and payments, it could take a significant number of patients away from O'care, which would make it unsustainable. Then change will be required, orderly or not, because it would leave millions without care.

We need to keep in mind that Obamacare is not healthcare, and does not guarantee care. It is insurance.
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Old 01-04-2014, 03:31 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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I hear you. It would not be an orderly change, but neither has this been an orderly implementation.
It is survivable, if people stop playing political games for gain and points, and start doing the right thing.

IF doctors finally say 'enough', and devise other forms of their practice policies and payments, it could take a significant number of patients away from O'care, which would make it unsustainable. Then change will be required, orderly or not, because it would leave millions without care.

We need to keep in mind that Obamacare is not healthcare, and does not guarantee care. It is insurance.
It's not sustainable and wasn't intended to be from the gate. No sane healthy young person is going to sign up and pay the exorbitant rates that are needed to keep O'care alive. But they knew that from the start.
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Old 01-05-2014, 04:18 AM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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Obamacare is designed to fail in order to usher in single payer. It was never supposed to work.
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