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Old 11-10-2013, 07:01 AM
 
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Being anti-Obama may result in longer wait times for necessary treatment. I would say it's best to feign cooperation.
Its way too late for me to hide it... They are recording and reading our messages on these bosrds for yrs now. They know who we all are and i am sure i am on a denied list for health care already...
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Old 11-10-2013, 04:44 PM
 
Location: S.E. US
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Its way too late for me to hide it... They are recording and reading our messages on these bosrds for yrs now. They know who we all are and i am sure i am on a denied list for health care already...
Then, better take really good care of oneself: eat right, stay fit, get plenty of sleep.
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Old 11-10-2013, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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My cardiologist retired over the crap..
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Old 11-10-2013, 04:55 PM
 
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About ten years ago I had a great doctor - really top notch. But then I received a notice that he was moving out of state, and that I would have to find a new doctor. No one, except for the doctor, is responsible for the decisions that the doctor makes. No one, except for the insurance company, is responsible for the decisions that the insurance company makes. Even if right-wing rhetoric cannot admit these facts.

So you're saying insurance companies aren't subject to laws?
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Old 11-10-2013, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Dublin, CA
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About ten years ago I had a great doctor - really top notch. But then I received a notice that he was moving out of state, and that I would have to find a new doctor. No one, except for the doctor, is responsible for the decisions that the doctor makes. No one, except for the insurance company, is responsible for the decisions that the insurance company makes. Even if right-wing rhetoric cannot admit these facts.
Except for the fact he moved by his decision. People are getting screwed out of THEIR healthcare and THEIR doctor's on the "facts" of a socialist. Obama lied to the American people. Not only lied, but did it knowingly. He is pushing a socialist agenda in this country and people are buying it.
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Old 11-10-2013, 09:42 PM
 
Location: State of Superior
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Except for the fact he moved by his decision. People are getting screwed out of THEIR healthcare and THEIR doctor's on the "facts" of a socialist. Obama lied to the American people. Not only lied, but did it knowingly. He is pushing a socialist agenda in this country and people are buying it.
Yes, us liberals are dreaded "Socialist" ....and so are you . Your paranoid talk is the same old republican talking point. The only people that are getting screwed are the millions who were shut out by the insurance companies., that are now putting one over on their policy holders by selling them more / new coverage than they need at a higher price . It's the old game of bait and switch. Several have been charged with this crime , I wonder how far it will go in the courts.
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Old 11-10-2013, 09:46 PM
 
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What didn't he lie about?
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Old 11-10-2013, 09:53 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Except for the fact he moved by his decision. People are getting screwed out of THEIR healthcare and THEIR doctor's on the "facts" of a socialist. Obama lied to the American people. Not only lied, but did it knowingly. He is pushing a socialist agenda in this country and people are buying it.
How is buying private insurance from a for-profit insurance company, socialist?
Do you even understand what "socialist" means, or are you repeating right-wing talking points?
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Old 11-11-2013, 04:06 AM
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Location: Florida
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Doctors will lose a lot of their power. Just wait. Even now, insurance companies make decisions that overrule. Wait until the government is in charge of what treatment is approved in which instance. You seem to think that both doctor and insurance company will be totally independent.
Not at all. As you pointed out, doctors haven't been fully "independent" for decades (as if anyone ever is truly "independent" - we humans are interdependent beings). Yet doctors are still responsible for the decisions that they make, and insurance companies are responsible for the decisions that they make. No matter how much you try to deflect attention away from that point.

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So if an insurance company "decides" to comply with a new law, the authors of the law are not responsible for that decision?
Clearly you failed to understand what I wrote, since I didn't write that. Go back and read what I wrote for understanding instead of out of a desperate need to have something negative to say in response.

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So you're saying insurance companies aren't subject to laws?
You too failed to understand what I wrote. Not only didn't I write that, but I actually have written something similar to its opposite. I realize how desperately ACA opponents are trying to come up with some defense against the moral repudiation of their offensively self-centered preferences, but a response to what people write still has to be in response to what those people actually wrote in order to be legitimate rather than worthy of ridicule.
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Old 11-11-2013, 07:45 AM
 
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Yes, us liberals are dreaded "Socialist" ....and so are you . Your paranoid talk is the same old republican talking point. The only people that are getting screwed are the millions who were shut out by the insurance companies., that are now putting one over on their policy holders by selling them more / new coverage than they need at a higher price . It's the old game of bait and switch. Several have been charged with this crime , I wonder how far it will go in the courts.

Ah the reguritated liberal talking point of "your policy was not good enough" and that's why it was cancelled. Typical liberal thinking "your too stupid to know if you actaully had a good policy or not, we know what's best so just shut up and sing the praises of Obamacare."

Do you guys ever get tired of telling the lies?
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