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Old 11-10-2013, 04:00 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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The next obvious question we must ask since we now know Obama lied about keeping your current plan, is, did he also lie about keeping your doctor? It appears the answer is, "yes."

In an analysis of the VA governors race, these facts about ObamaCare have been revealed by a question that Clarice Feldman asked some friends on how the Republican Party might have acted to produce different results in the governors race:
Snooping questions about sex, the annual physical and cost control measures.


"I'd go after the sex-life-snooping questions mandated by Obamacare. The mandate is a "free" annual exam, but the bait-and-switch is that what is mandated is not something guided by the health of the patient but the interests of the government.

a) With cost controls needing to come from somewhere, it's likely that the only person available to you for your annual "physical" will be some barely-trained medic, as opposed to a doctor, PA, RN, etc. Pretty soon it will devolve into an ACORN/OWS precinct captain who doesn't know anything about medicine at all. Just like "navigators"

b) The annual "physical" does not allow you to talk about any NEW health problem -- for that you need to make a regular appt and pay out of pocket. So all those public service announcements of "talk to your doctor about..." things like changes in a mole, chest pain, bowel changes, blah-blah-blah -- you know, HEALTH issues -- that's not included.

c) What IS mandated is that the "health care provider" interrogate the "patient" at each app[ointment] and record the results in the government database. (And the provider who doesn't get the data gets financially punished.) The mandated interrogation is about smoking, whether or not the patient is being beaten at home, with whom and how often the patient is having sex, and how many guns are in the patient's home"

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It sounds to me like the "free" annual exam is more like a "free anal exam." The more we learn about ObamaCare, the scarier it gets.
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Old 11-10-2013, 05:25 AM
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Location: Florida
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About ten years ago I had a great doctor - really top notch. But then I received a notice that he was moving out of state, and that I would have to find a new doctor. No one, except for the doctor, is responsible for the decisions that the doctor makes. No one, except for the insurance company, is responsible for the decisions that the insurance company makes. Even if right-wing rhetoric cannot admit these facts.
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Old 11-10-2013, 05:42 AM
 
Location: Houston
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About ten years ago I had a great doctor - really top notch. But then I received a notice that he was moving out of state, and that I would have to find a new doctor. No one, except for the doctor, is responsible for the decisions that the doctor makes. No one, except for the insurance company, is responsible for the decisions that the insurance company makes. Even if right-wing rhetoric cannot admit these facts.

Of course, just like you and I, the decisions of doctors and insurance companies, is greatly influenced by economics.
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Old 11-10-2013, 05:50 AM
 
Location: S.E. US
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About ten years ago I had a great doctor - really top notch. But then I received a notice that he was moving out of state, and that I would have to find a new doctor. No one, except for the doctor, is responsible for the decisions that the doctor makes. No one, except for the insurance company, is responsible for the decisions that the insurance company makes. Even if right-wing rhetoric cannot admit these facts.
Doctors will lose a lot of their power. Just wait. Even now, insurance companies make decisions that overrule. Wait until the government is in charge of what treatment is approved in which instance. You seem to think that both doctor and insurance company will be totally independent.
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Old 11-10-2013, 05:50 AM
 
Location: it depends
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About ten years ago I had a great doctor - really top notch. But then I received a notice that he was moving out of state, and that I would have to find a new doctor. No one, except for the doctor, is responsible for the decisions that the doctor makes. No one, except for the insurance company, is responsible for the decisions that the insurance company makes. Even if right-wing rhetoric cannot admit these facts.
So if an insurance company "decides" to comply with a new law, the authors of the law are not responsible for that decision? Or did the 2,000 page law include a provision that said compliance was optional for insurance companies? We know the President believes he can pick and choose which parts of the law should go into effect, and choose who must obey the law and who is allowed to ignore the law, but I thought the whole thing was pretty much mandatory on everybody else. Can you clarify?
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Old 11-10-2013, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Now they also have to provide unlimited mental health therapy with the new EO just signed.

Up go the premiums to cover this new mandate.
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Old 11-10-2013, 06:13 AM
 
Location: S.E. US
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Now they also have to provide unlimited mental health therapy with the new EO just signed.

Up go the premiums to cover this new mandate.
yep, and everyone will be required to pay for it.
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Old 11-10-2013, 06:19 AM
 
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About ten years ago I had a great doctor - really top notch. But then I received a notice that he was moving out of state, and that I would have to find a new doctor. No one, except for the doctor, is responsible for the decisions that the doctor makes. No one, except for the insurance company, is responsible for the decisions that the insurance company makes. Even if right-wing rhetoric cannot admit these facts.

You don't understand that the narrower networks are needed as a cost container to cover the increased expenses associated with not being able to charge extra for preexisting conditions and for lowering theocratic in cost between older and younger people from 5 to 1 to 3 to 1?
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Old 11-10-2013, 06:41 AM
 
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The next obvious question we must ask since we now know Obama lied about keeping your current plan, is, did he also lie about keeping your doctor? It appears the answer is, "yes."

In an analysis of the VA governors race, these facts about ObamaCare have been revealed by a question that Clarice Feldman asked some friends on how the Republican Party might have acted to produce different results in the governors race:
Snooping questions about sex, the annual physical and cost control measures.


"I'd go after the sex-life-snooping questions mandated by Obamacare. The mandate is a "free" annual exam, but the bait-and-switch is that what is mandated is not something guided by the health of the patient but the interests of the government.

a) With cost controls needing to come from somewhere, it's likely that the only person available to you for your annual "physical" will be some barely-trained medic, as opposed to a doctor, PA, RN, etc. Pretty soon it will devolve into an ACORN/OWS precinct captain who doesn't know anything about medicine at all. Just like "navigators"

b) The annual "physical" does not allow you to talk about any NEW health problem -- for that you need to make a regular appt and pay out of pocket. So all those public service announcements of "talk to your doctor about..." things like changes in a mole, chest pain, bowel changes, blah-blah-blah -- you know, HEALTH issues -- that's not included.

c) What IS mandated is that the "health care provider" interrogate the "patient" at each app[ointment] and record the results in the government database. (And the provider who doesn't get the data gets financially punished.) The mandated interrogation is about smoking, whether or not the patient is being beaten at home, with whom and how often the patient is having sex, and how many guns are in the patient's home"

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It sounds to me like the "free" annual exam is more like a "free anal exam." The more we learn about ObamaCare, the scarier it gets.
When asked who i am having sex with or if theres any abuse going on i will answer yes. Obama to both questions. I am on the receiving end of both from his adminstration.
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Old 11-10-2013, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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When asked who i am having sex with or if theres any abuse going on i will answer yes. Obama to both questions. I am on the receiving end of both from his adminstration.
Being anti-Obama may result in longer wait times for necessary treatment. I would say it's best to feign cooperation.
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