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Old 11-11-2013, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Originally Posted by Memphis1979 View Post
I served also, but I think that the myth is without our service that the country would dissolve or have been destroyed. This is simply not true.

The military is a vital need for national defense. It does not provide anyone, any freedom. The constitution does that.
That depends on how you describe freedom.

 
Old 11-11-2013, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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That depends on how you describe freedom.
In your definition of freedom, its only achieved at the barrel of a gun.

Washington, and every President before 1946 dismantled the military after war.

Guess they were against freedom?

As I said, if we were invaded by an outside threat, every man and woman would fight and get a gun. Thats who we are, thats how we roll. Its why the British lost after their initial invasion of Washington in the war of 1812. Overwhelming military force is beaten with time, blood, and the will of a free people. Ask the Afghani's how well our military did there.

We only have freedom because of the citizens of this nation, and the laws we make sure our representatives protect. The military is neither good or bad. It has been both
 
Old 11-11-2013, 02:26 PM
 
Location: South Portland, ME
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Default Stop "thanking" soldiers for "freedom"

A good read for "Veteran's Day": Stop thanking the troops for me: No, they don’t “protect our freedoms!”

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What is problematic, in any case, is that this peculiar, nonexistent connection between “freedom” and the military continues to be perpetuated as an uncontroversial truism, and is met with virtually no resistance, at least within the confines of the mainstream.

Last edited by CaseyB; 11-11-2013 at 02:59 PM.. Reason: copyright violation
 
Old 11-11-2013, 02:31 PM
 
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I would go so far as to argue that the current form of the US military jeopardizes the sorts of "freedoms" that sycophants who mouth this mantra incessantly value.
 
Old 11-11-2013, 02:33 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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The typical hysteria we get from people who resent the fact that our military is necessary, and that this country (and the world) would be less well off it it did not exist.

(yawn)
 
Old 11-11-2013, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Do not thank a veteran for your freedom

Duplicate thread
 
Old 11-11-2013, 02:36 PM
 
Location: DFW
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Originally Posted by Memphis1979 View Post
In your definition of freedom, its only achieved at the barrel of a gun.

Washington, and every President before 1946 dismantled the military after war.

Guess they were against freedom?

As I said, if we were invaded by an outside threat, every man and woman would fight and get a gun. Thats who we are, thats how we roll. Its why the British lost after their initial invasion of Washington in the war of 1812. Overwhelming military force is beaten with time, blood, and the will of a free people. Ask the Afghani's how well our military did there.

We only have freedom because of the citizens of this nation, and the laws we make sure our representatives protect. The military is neither good or bad. It has been both
Do you have proof of this? You do realize that we had an intact military between the two World Wars?
 
Old 11-11-2013, 02:37 PM
 
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The typical hysteria we get from people who resent the fact that our military is necessary, and that this country (and the world) would be less well off it it did not exist.

(yawn)
Ah, you're one of those persons who treats "security" as synonymous with "freedoms," eh? Do you often argue that your burglar alarm protects your "freedoms?"

And are you dovetailing into a little argument justifying imperialism because it enriches us economically with your second "point?"
 
Old 11-11-2013, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Good lord, can people go a month without crapping all over an American holiday?
 
Old 11-11-2013, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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The hate from the left is strong today.
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