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Reid will do the same thing he did with the other 48 attempts to repeal the law. It is dead. If the Senate sends something to the House, Boehner will do what Boehner does with everything. It is dead. So, any legislative fix is dead. Obama met with the insurance execs today. Obama met with the insurance execs today. HHS put out the rules. The ball is already rolling. There is nothing Congress can do but make a political spectacle of it.
That's ok.
Obamacare is the gift that will keep on giving to Repbulicans.
If it hasn't given enough to get it repealed in 2014, so much the better for 2016.
An apt description of the House Republicans, who have passed bills to repeal the ACA over 40 times (knowing that the Senate and the WH isn't going to take it up), without any concrete counter solutions to resolve the real issue of health care in this country.
Not to mention the shutdown debacle.
This is yet another Trojan horse to gut the ACA. By allowing insurance companies to continue to offer substandard plans to healthy young people it would drive up costs for everyone. It would lead to sicker risk pools, and, when poorly covered people do have big health problems, push the costs back onto the rest of us.
Obama already made his proclamation that insurance companies could continue these policies.
The IRS, DOL and HHS knew in 2010 that their tweaking of grandfather rules would eliminate 66% of individual policies and 45% of group policies by 2013. I posted a link to the Federal Register. THEY KNEW.
High premiums are needed to fund this and too many grandfather plans wouldn't let that happen.
Go read it. Nothing mentioned about "substandard plans". It was all about low vs high premiums.
On Friday, the House of Representatives approved legislation sponsored by Rep. Fred Upton (R-MI) that would allow insurers to continue to offer policies on the individual market. The vote was 261-157. Thirty-nine Democrats voted for the Upton Amendment, which is an indication the Democrat united front on Obamacare is cracking.
This is really ignorant.
After forcing insurance companies to redesign their entire offering of health care policies, and millions of dollars wasted in endless meetings with state regulators, employers, health care networks, private groups and lawyers to get these plans approved, and agreed to. Then we tell them oops, go back the way it was?
Only problem is, all the other mandates are still there, telling insurance providers what must be covered by their policies, and which products and services must be given away for free. So those old plans no longer exist.
On top of all of this, because of this law many doctors, hospitals and providers have already either decided they will no longer work with specific insurers, networks and such, and they may make these old plans useless.
Further more, the holiday season is approaching, and insurance companies only have a few weeks left to get state insurance regulators to sign off on these policies.
And Obama just said last week that mental health has no limits or caps and has to be covered now with no bounds.
That's a new one that none of them have yet.
Unlimited mental health coverage instead of gun control laws.
Meanwhile if you are Republican dependent on a gubbermint handout you are busy scheduling your trip down to the VA, Medicare, or Tricare on Monday. After that you will check on your oxygen supply, meds, and new batteries for your mobility scooter. Then you will complain about Obamacare and big gubbermint socialism...Do you guys ever think about the hypocrites you are while sucking off the government teat?
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but now want to craft legislation to make it work, . 