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Old 11-22-2013, 07:55 PM
 
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How to think about the latest Obamacare delay

The madness continues. The White House has decided to delay open enrollment by one month from October 2014 to November 2014 (so people cannot see their 2015 rates) until AFTER the midterm elections.
So now they are hiding costs. That means it can't be good. What will it take for Obama supporters to say this is not good?

 
Old 11-22-2013, 08:15 PM
 
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So now they are hiding costs. That means it can't be good. What will it take for Obama supporters to say this is not good?
They'll never admit it.
 
Old 11-22-2013, 08:46 PM
 
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They'll never admit it.
No they won't. A cousin got his cancellation and was shocked at the price of his new policy. He started ranting about the insurance companies gouging their customers. I sent him a couple links about the insurance companies negotiating the new rates with HHS. He said that's what all Republicans say and they're full of it. Tis the season of denial.
 
Old 11-22-2013, 10:51 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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This is hilarious! The Bronze plans are 17-20% of gross income and some of the platinum plans are up to 30-35% of gross income per year.. Wow, did they screw the pooch. Wait until 2015 when the costs go even higher.. If this doesn't reduce the number of Demonrats in Congress by half next year we have more low intelligence voters than anyone could possibly imagine..

Remember, this is just the monthly premiums and doesn't include $4,000 to $12,000 deductibles before you ever hit a paid benefit.. ROTFLMAO!

In one case a person grossing 52K per year will pay close to $20K before they ever see a dime from the Demonrat's plans..
Take some time and run some numbers.. It's unbelievable!

Sticker shock hits health exchange shoppers

How did Chris Matthews say it? I have a thrill going up my leg over Obummer right now..

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Old 11-23-2013, 12:05 AM
 
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So now they are hiding costs. That means it can't be good. What will it take for Obama supporters to say this is not good?



Obama & cohorts keep taking a course to keep from being held accountable for their own actions.
 
Old 11-23-2013, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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No one else is paying into this "kitty" except individuals now.
All the other groups got waivers and extensions.

The government is taking on millions of new medicaid enrollees and subsidizing premiums for middle class people now.

And this bill was written by the insurance industry for the insurance industry.
If you are going to cap them in one area then they have to make up the difference in another.
If you remove all caps they have to have a pool of money large enough to pay claims that can go into the tens of millions for the chronically ill for the rest of their lives.
 
Old 11-23-2013, 08:03 AM
 
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No one else is paying into this "kitty" except individuals now.
All the other groups got waivers and extensions.

The government is taking on millions of new medicaid enrollees and subsidizing premiums for middle class people now.

And this bill was written by the insurance industry for the insurance industry.
If you are going to cap them in one area then they have to make up the difference in another.
If you remove all caps they have to have a pool of money large enough to pay claims that can go into the tens of millions for the chronically ill for the rest of their lives.
There is no real way to fix the ACA.

Giving away free stuff like mediciad is an entitlement. It's like crack cocaine. The Dems like to get people addicted to crack.

They worry about paying for the addiction later. Right now they are just interested in giving away crack. Like drug dealers letting you have just a sniff of the drug.

Get you hooked on crack. Soon the Dems will have to find a way to steal from others to pay for the free crack to keep giving it out.
 
Old 11-23-2013, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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There is no real way to fix the ACA.

Giving away free stuff like mediciad is an entitlement. It's like crack cocaine. The Dems like to get people addicted to crack.

They worry about paying for the addiction later. Right now they are just interested in giving away crack. Like drug dealers letting you have just a sniff of the drug.

Get you hooked on crack. Soon the Dems will have to find a way to steal from others to pay for the free crack to keep giving it out.
I read that they project over 6 million new enrollees to medicaid by end of next year
 
Old 11-23-2013, 08:21 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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The government is taking on millions of new medicaid enrollees and subsidizing premiums for middle class people now.
Some, but not all, middle class people. Many middle class people are shocked to discover that they apparently are considered "rich" enough to be forced to PAY for everyone else.

Sticker shock hits health exchange shoppers

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And this bill was written by the insurance industry for the insurance industry.
Indeed, it was. So why, exactly, do liberals support a law that enriches the insurance industry and their stock holders? Hmmm...?
 
Old 11-23-2013, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Some, but not all, middle class people. Many middle class people are shocked to discover that they apparently are considered "rich" enough to be forced to PAY for everyone else.

Sticker shock hits health exchange shoppers

Indeed, it was. So why, exactly, do liberals support a law that enriches the insurance industry and their stock holders? Hmmm...?
Why ? Because they didn't know that Liz Fowler got hired to write the framework and advise government officials on Obamacare implementation.
Did Obama, Reid, Pelosi or Baucus ever mention that ?

Just like the bankers wrote the Wall Street reform bill that Barney Frank brought forward.
Some of the "rules" in that bill have still yet to be defined and implemented.
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