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Old 11-14-2013, 04:40 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Wikipedia describes one of the debaters, Levinson, as "a prominent American liberal law professor and acknowledged expert on Constitutional law".

I have noticed that people who are described as "experts on Constitutional law", often haven't devoted much attention to what the Constitution says and why it says it. Rather, they concentrate on what various judges and others CLAIM the Constitution says, and what various case law CLAIMS the Constitution requires.

In other words, they aren't experts on Constitution law at all. They are experts on judges' verdicts and others' opinions. They are often the ones who come up with lines like, "The Constitution says whatever the Supreme Court tells us it says", as though the words in the Constitution itself, have no meaning.

As often as not, they are the ones trying to evade what the Constitution requires, treating that document as an obstacle rather than as a framework for building and controlling a government.

I wonder if Levinson is one of those? I haven't heard him talk much. I already know Douchewitz is.
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Old 11-14-2013, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Fort Myers Fl
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I think the gun grabbing democrats are in the middle of their last dance. Obamacare has opened many eyes.

Anyone who is for gun confiscation either has very little knowledge about history or they are on the side who wants to control the people.
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Old 11-14-2013, 04:42 PM
 
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How many illegals are in the US House of Representatives. I don't think that would pass the US Senate.
2/3 vote in both houses of Congress just to get it on the table and that is where their involvement ends. It would still have to be ratified by 38 states.
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Old 11-14-2013, 04:44 PM
 
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2/3 vote in both houses of Congress just to get it on the table and that is where their involvement ends. It would still have to be ratified by 38 states.
I saw what you did there.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/clay-wa...tioned-nytimes
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Old 11-14-2013, 04:44 PM
 
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Personally I feel that the second amendment HAS outlived its life. We need a new one that expands on its scope allowing for the personal rights we now have, plus the right to form well organized militias that CAN actually legally own tanks, rpg's, that sort of thing. I do however think nuclear, biological, chemical, and nanite weapons should remain banned.
You can own tanks and rpg's.
2A is here for a reason, and will stay here for as long as we are a Constitutional Republic.
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Old 11-14-2013, 04:47 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Q: Why does the Constitution have a Second Amendment?

A: In case the government doesn't obey the first one.
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Old 11-14-2013, 04:47 PM
 
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Never have we needed the 2nd amendment more than present !
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Old 11-14-2013, 04:48 PM
 
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I didn't do anything, the 2/3 vote by either Congress or the states is just to get a proposal on the table. You need a 3/4 vote of the states to ratify, that's 38.
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Old 11-14-2013, 04:49 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Never have we needed the 2nd amendment more than present !
Never have we had more barriers to enjoying the right it protects.
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Old 11-14-2013, 04:49 PM
 
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Is that really the title of the debate? Nobody with intellectual credibility would debate under that title. A better title would be, "Now that people have been divinely exorcised of their tendency to harm and control others, has the Constitutional Right To Bear Arms Outlived Its Usefulness?"
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