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Old 11-14-2013, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Vegas
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[SIZE=3]An absolutely solution to the stupid mess of Obozocare.[/SIZE]


[SIZE=3]Read this very interesting article @ Grim's Hall: The magic of self-pay Check out to see what your doctor's reaction is when you offer to pay cash for his services. How many will jump at the chance of avoiding all the insurance company BS?[/SIZE]
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Old 11-15-2013, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Vegas
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Media Roundup of Self-Pay Healthcare
Posted on November 15, 2013 by seandparnell

Patients who pay their own way, either because they are uninsured or have a high-deductible health insurance plan, have been popping up in the media more often of late, or so it seems to me at least. I thought regular readers might appreciate seeing what’s being reported, and new readers might also gain something by getting an overview of the choices and considerations self-pay patients have.

Read more @ The Self-Pay Patient | Affordable health care options for the uninsured or those with high deductible insurance.
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Old 11-15-2013, 03:05 PM
 
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THIS IS NOT RIGHT!

We can not trust any of this nations doctors to touch physical cash provided by customers. How do we not know if they might just be scamming their patients? How do we not know if the doctors will just by cocaine and morphine with it? How do we not know if they will try to not report this on their tax return?

We must not trust anyone especially smart people like doctors with physical cash. This should be made illegal right away. If you hear of any doctor accepting actual physical currency or bartering, please notify your friendly local homeland security department at once!
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Old 11-15-2013, 03:42 PM
 
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I can give a cost comparison.

Regular Dr-Price to see wife to renew her prescriptions. $250.

Self Pay Dr. $77

Quality of care-about the same. He does less testing to check the drug levels, and we don't see him as often.

He does have a reputation for prescribing anything you want without too much hassle......but that wasn't why we saw him. My wifes prescriptions are boring.
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Old 11-15-2013, 03:49 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Is Obamacare Driving Doctors to Refuse Insurance? - Yahoo Finance

Is Obamacare Driving Doctors to Refuse Insurance?

Practices say cutting out insurers cuts 40% of their overhead

By Jen Wieczner
November 12, 2013 11:14 AM

When Samir Qamar practiced concierge medicine at Pebble Beach Resorts in Monterey, Calif., the hotel’s “A-list clientele” paid $550 to see him and as much as $30,000 a month to keep him on retainer.

But last year, Dr. Qamar decided to abandon VIP medicine and pursue a no-frills version of his practice, charging just $59 for monthly membership to his MedLion clinics (16 locations in five states) and $10 a visit—and never billing insurance.

Dr. Qamar is part of a new and growing generation of concierge doctors who, in this era of health reform, see more opportunity in the middle class than they do in the jet set. The trend has bifurcated the retainer medicine industry: On one end, patients pay thousands of dollars a month for lavish celebrity-type treatment at traditional concierge practices. On the other, pared-down clinics charge roughly $50 to $100 a month for basic primary-care medicine, more accessible doctors, and yes, money savings for those looking to reduce their health spending.

Of the estimated 5,500 concierge practices nationwide, about two-thirds charge less than $135 a month on average, up from 49% three years ago, according to Concierge Medicine Today, a trade publication that also runs a research collective for the industry. Inexpensive practices are driving growth in concierge medicine, which is adding offices at a rate of about 25% a year, says the American Academy of Private Physicians.
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Old 11-15-2013, 04:05 PM
 
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This might be the best result from this fiasco. Self pay, and it is popping up all over. We can compare costs that way and pick the doctor who gives us the best service for the best price. Love it.

When Obamacare doesn't kick in until you pay the first 10,000 everyone is self-pay.
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Old 11-15-2013, 04:06 PM
 
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Is Obamacare Driving Doctors to Refuse Insurance?
heh heh.

Unintended Consequences.

Leftists are really bad at this.
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Old 11-15-2013, 04:09 PM
 
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This might be the best result from this fiasco. Self pay, and it is popping up all over. We can compare costs that way and pick the doctor who gives us the best service for the best price. Love it.

When Obamacare doesn't kick in until you pay the first 10,000 everyone is self-pay.
Self-Pay on general doctor visits and general low cost prescriptions and such, was always the way it should have been. Until gov't really got involved in the industry, then insurance companies grew huge, and prices skyrocketed.

ACA has already made it ILLEGAL for any new doctor owned hospitals. Current doctor owned hospitals are ok, but no news ones are allowed.

How long until they make a law saying no doctor owned practices or clinics?

Patch Adams is a good movie for every American to watch. It shows just how wrong government involvement is in health care.
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