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Old 11-16-2013, 11:21 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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There is no real data in the article. It does say wal-mart employees make less than $9 per hour and Yum! employees make less than $8. I thought 8 was less than 9 so I thought they would be higher than wal-mart. I think the article is another "let's hate wal-mart" huffpo piece.
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Old 11-16-2013, 11:26 PM
 
Location: NJ
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What a newsflash: Low skill set jobs top the list of corps with low average wages.

Imagine that!!
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Old 11-17-2013, 12:05 AM
 
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If they cannot afford to pay enough to keep their workers off of Medicaid and Food Stamps then maybe they should consult with me and other taxpayers that are picking up the tab for these things at their next board meeting. I also have a bone to pick with them concerning the taxes they don't pay...

Wal-Mart
How about you answer the question rather than jumping around it? How would Walmart increase wages of all their employees without raising prices? You seem to be throwing out ideas without any explanations.
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Old 11-17-2013, 01:16 AM
 
Location: California
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yeah, they need to develop the skill of pushing buttons, and hanging product on a rack. yeah massive skill level there, we should pay these people $100,000 per year
Yes they do, if that's what the job requires. And ideally working with people, learning how to troubleshoot and handle issues, make decision, learning the BUSINESS of the business, etc. But to me the bigger problem isn't the low pay, it's expected in an "entry level" job. No, the problem is "entry level" is now "unskilled" because there are no other levels. You get one of those jobs and that's usually as far as you can go because there isn't a career track and companies aren't interested in developing anyone or promoting from within.

Not every job can lead to a career, I admit, but very few of them do these days. That's a problem because where do you take your button pushing, clothes hanging skills once you have them. Nowhere, that's where. Minimum wage hasn't kept up with COL and that is not in dispute. Together with the inability to move up it's a disaster for everyone, and that's the real reason people are pushing to make minimum wage higher. If there were more opportunities to move out of those starter positions this probably wouldn't be as big of an issue, but people are stuck there with nowhere to go.
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Old 11-17-2013, 02:35 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Businesses have one purpose..to increase shareholder wealth. Liberals have chosen to make a purpose of the federal government to subsidize sloth and stupidity.

Since some people never took Econ 101:

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By preferring the support of domestic to that of foreign industry, he intends
only his own security; and by directing that industry in such a manner as its
produce may be of the greatest value, he intends only his own gain, and he is in
this, as in many other cases, led by an invisible hand to promote an end
which was no part of his intention. Nor is it always the worse for the society
that it was not part of it. By pursuing his own interest he frequently promotes
that of the society more effectually than when he really intends to promote it.
I have never known much good done by those who affected to trade for the public
good. It is an affectation, indeed, not very common among merchants, and very
few words need be employed in dissuading them from it.
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Old 11-17-2013, 02:42 AM
 
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Businesses have one purpose..to increase shareholder wealth. Liberals have chosen to make a purpose of the federal government to subsidize sloth and stupidity.

Since some people never took Econ 101:
Which is ironic... considering liberals are generally more educated. Being more educated and subsidizing stupidity... I guess they're covering all the bases.
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Old 11-17-2013, 03:40 AM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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10. Starbucks
9. TJX Companies
8. Macy's
7. Darden Restaurants
6. Sears Holdings
5. Yum! Brands
4. Kroger
3. Target
2. McDonald's

and the winner is
Spoiler
1. Walmart!!!!

The 10 Companies Paying Americans The Least: 24/7 Wall Street
I have to wonder why Burger King, K Mart, Popeye's Chicken, Jiffy Lube, KFC, Goodyear Tires, Tires Plus, Taco Bell, The Golden Corrale, Red Lobster, and about 30 more aren't on a list of 50?

Almost anyone making less than 10 bucks an hour qualifies for EBT or SNAP.
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Old 11-17-2013, 04:08 AM
 
Location: Somewhere Out West
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Retail jobs should not be a lifelong endeavor. Tens of Millions of us did them TEMPORARILY -in our TEENAGE years, and moved to higher level professions later, using our drive and education.
And yet in other countries retail jobs are careers. If you ever experienced the professionalism of a retail employee in parts of Europe or Australia etc., you will realise these are not part-time professions, but a life-long career.

Maybe if we treated retail work as more a career option, instead of stop-gap, they could be rewarded financially better and we would be rewarded with a greater shopping experience.
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Old 11-17-2013, 04:18 AM
 
Location: Warren County, NJ
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And yet in other countries retail jobs are careers. If you ever experienced the professionalism of a retail employee in parts of Europe or Australia etc., you will realise these are not part-time professions, but a life-long career.

Maybe if we treated retail work as more a career option, instead of stop-gap, they could be rewarded financially better and we would be rewarded with a greater shopping experience.
Excellent point! Being a waiter is also a lifelong career in Europe.I worked with a French waiter once and he was very proud of his career.He was very professional,also.
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Old 11-17-2013, 04:34 AM
 
Location: 53179
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Was this thread created to bash working people? I mean, even though they work in retail, they are still working. I thought that was a good thing. And don't think all retail jobs working for pennies. Like I said, when I worked for Macy's back in 2007 and before, my base pay was nearly 14 bucks an hour, before commission. I had coworkers making an additional 700 dollars a month in just commission every month, not including November and December holiday season.
I know this is not typical but it is not unusual.
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