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Old 11-17-2013, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Better half of PA
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You say I don't know what you believe. Yet, you constantly advocate the government interfere in every aspect of our lives, businesses, education, etc.

EVERYTHING GOVERNMENT DOES IS DONE BY DEADLY FORCE. It doesn't ever ask politely and accept "no" as an answer. You do it, or government WILL put you in jail, or kill you trying to.

Thus, you believe in controlling everyone at gunpoint. Duhhh.

And, you can't point to a single thing I say that has ANYTHING to do with "inability of your mind to see anything but a dollar sign".
how about an example of me advocating the govt interfering with every aspect of our lives?
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Old 11-17-2013, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Perestroika and glastnost were symbolic nothings meant to satiate the loud grumblings. None of these people believed in freedom, they just couldn't figure out how to do things as they had been doing them and make it work. Appeasement was meant to KEEP communism, not to get rid of it.

And the fact that the iron fist that kept the East Germans prisoner was mostly paralyzed was due, in no small part, to the fact that the outside world was fomenting discord internally - despite their best efforts to suppress it.
I did not speculate what they might have believed, or wanted, I simply stated the fact that those polices led to the collapse of the USSR.
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Old 11-17-2013, 01:41 PM
 
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Can you at least try to prove them wrong....
History.

Case closed.
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Old 11-17-2013, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Better half of PA
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Liberals are tyrants, for they believe without doubt or reservation in their right to force their judgment of how things should be upon everyone.
ok. I guess you and I can part ways. You know every thing about everything so what's the point of arguing?
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Old 11-17-2013, 01:42 PM
 
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I did not speculate what they might have believed, or wanted, I simply stated the fact that those polices led to the collapse of the USSR.
No, they were not causation, they were symptomatic.
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Old 11-17-2013, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Florida
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History. Case closed.
History does not seem to be on your side.
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Old 11-17-2013, 01:44 PM
 
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ok. I guess you and I can part ways. You know every thing about everything so what's the point of arguing?
And you argue because you think you're always right - precisely what you accuse me of.

Sorry, I just like to tell the truth bluntly and it offends some people.
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Old 11-17-2013, 01:47 PM
 
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History does not seem to be on your side.
History doesn't have sides. It is what it is. And no matter how you try to tell it wrongly, it's still wrong.
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Old 11-17-2013, 01:49 PM
 
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And you argue because you think you're always right - precisely what you accuse me of.

Sorry, I just like to tell the truth bluntly and it offends some people.
I'm not offended by much brother.
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Old 11-17-2013, 01:51 PM
 
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I'm not offended by much brother.
Well, good.

Then explain to me how you intend to forcibly alter society to make it the way you want it to be without using force.
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