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Old 11-13-2013, 09:36 AM
 
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Just heard the author of the book being interviewed and she comes from the economic standpoint and introduces an interesting premise. Article worth the read.



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Imagine a moment in the not-too-distant future:

A decades-long effort by Chinese companies to infiltrate Canadian banking and drilling firms has succeeded in securing Canada's oil and natural gas fields for pillage. At least some money from these deals trickles into Ottawa's coffers, which is more than the government can say for its oil in the Arctic, where Canada has been muscled out of its claims by extraction companies with the backing of the Russian government. A network of Chinese ports has secured the sea lines along the Northwest Passage, circumscribing Canadian sovereignty, and Canada's military, enfeebled after years of reliance on the United States, is powerless to resist. Canada effectively lapses into a vassal state, reliant on neocolonial patriarchs in Beijing and Moscow.

By erasing the border, Canada would gain a military with a stake in protecting its resources from foreign incursions, and the investment capital and people to develop oil, natural gas and other mining projects in the country's undeveloped north.

The United States, for its part, would have access to an estimated 13 percent of the world's remaining undiscovered oil reserves and 30 percent of its undiscovered natural gas. "The most obvious synergy," she writes, "would be matching Canada's undeveloped resource potential with America's money, markets and workers."

The case for CanAmerica: Here's how a U.S.-Canada merger could work - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

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Old 11-13-2013, 09:43 AM
 
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Sure, it can work - no matter how easily or painful the process may be. But, will it happen? Not under the scenario given in the article.
 
Old 11-13-2013, 10:12 AM
 
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This country is already too big. We can't help ourselves by adding 33m people. As for the military, Canada does have a military, but that's beside the point. Any attack on Canada, because of the relationship we have with them, is a defacto attack on the United States. Any foreign incursion would be met with a fierce military response from both countries.
 
Old 11-13-2013, 10:24 AM
 
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This country is already too big. We can't help ourselves by adding 33m people. As for the military, Canada does have a military, but that's beside the point. Any attack on Canada, because of the relationship we have with them, is a defacto attack on the United States. Any foreign incursion would be met with a fierce military response from both countries.
Did you read the link? It's based upon an economics standpoint. How would it be "adding" people?
 
Old 11-13-2013, 10:28 AM
 
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Did you read the link? It's based upon an economics standpoint. How would it be "adding" people?
Yes, I read it. She's talking about erasing the border. That adds 33m people to a country that is already ungovernable due to it size.
 
Old 11-13-2013, 10:30 AM
 
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Yes, I read it. She's talking about erasing the border. That adds 33m people to a country that is already ungovernable due to it size.
Its not adding people to just the US. Canada would still exist, along with its economy.
 
Old 11-13-2013, 10:30 AM
 
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I agree that the countries have already developed to long and that as the country is big for a union and hard to manage in over all federally. One reason the founders put restrictions on federal powers to prevent its breakup eventually.Many states and local government refusing to enforce federal laws is more and more common and a sign of the differences.
 
Old 11-13-2013, 10:32 AM
 
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Its not adding people to just the US. Canada would still exist, along with its economy.
That isn't how I read the article, but whatever.
 
Old 11-13-2013, 01:27 PM
 
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Did you read the link? It's based upon an economics standpoint. How would it be "adding" people?
Oh cool, another economic genius who wants to manipulate the economy instead of letting we the people, as individuals, decide what's good for us. You don't learn from your mistakes do you?
 
Old 11-13-2013, 02:50 PM
 
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Yes, I read it. She's talking about erasing the border. That adds 33m people to a country that is already ungovernable due to it size.
No it doesn't; it adds 340 million to a country being run efficiently and responsibly via a functioning Parliamentary system of democracy.
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