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Old 11-17-2013, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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What is a right wing nut job?
I have no clue, i dont use that term.
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Old 11-17-2013, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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yes.
No.
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Old 11-17-2013, 04:06 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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JFK said tax cuts were the right way to go during a time in which the country isn't in the middle of a recession.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEdXrfIMdiU
Yes, and the taxes back then were probably higher than they are right now.
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Old 11-17-2013, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country
Doesn't sound much like todays democrats, they're all concerned with what government can do for them. JFK must have been a RWNJ.
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Old 11-17-2013, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Bandera, Texas
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I never found it productive to argue the finer points of a dead man's life; especially post-mortem. I'm sure if counted, there are plenty of authoritative books being released on the 50th anniversary of JFK's assignation. Not.
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Old 11-17-2013, 05:05 PM
 
Location: NC
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John F. Kennedy Was a Conservative - Reason.com

JFK was an NRA life member who proposed tax cuts on the rich. Twenty years later, Ronald Reagan often quoted JFK on tax policy. JFK was a staunch anti-communist and ally of Joe McCarthy during his Senate days. Brother Bobby followed along. Is it possible that a liberal prince was really a RWNJ?
Compared to the modern day moonbat he would be considered a teabagger
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Old 11-17-2013, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Doesn't sound much like todays democrats, they're all concerned with what government can do for them. JFK must have been a RWNJ.
Arguing that government can do good is what Democrats stand for, right wingers seem to have warped that into meaning government should do everything.

JFK never advocated that government should do nothing or be small enough to drown in a bath tub.

JFK believed in a functional government, the same thing most people in this country believe in regardless of what side of the aisle they sit on
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Old 11-17-2013, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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it was a different time entirely.
Kennedy firmly believed in the Communist menace. He got us into Vietnam because he believed in the domino theory, and had no qualms about propping up the Diem regime as it fell apart.

But back then, believing the Communists were trying to take over the world wasn't a belief of only the far right at all. The atomic bomb scared the crap out of all sides equally, and we simply don't have the level of fear that was present throughout the decade of the 50's. By his election, those fears had not abated in the slightest.

Joe McCarthy used that fear to further his own agenda, but there came a time when picking on other Americans had gone far enough. There was never much of that when it came to picking on the Russians by either party or by the American public.

Kennedy had actual experience to back up his beliefs with his confrontation with Kruschev and the Cuban missile crisis. As the old records of the event are slowly becoming de-classified, it's becoming clear how close both nations came to a real, honest to God nuclear catastrophe neither really wanted.
We only know about the concessions the Soviets made. We'll never know what the concessions Kennedy made were, but they certainly had to be as great as what the Soviets gave up.

Conservatism was different back then. So was extremism. The civil rights movement was viewed as a domestic threat by members of both parties, while at the same time, members of both parties promoted it. Our present views of liberal vs. conservative were changed forever during the decade of the Vietnam war, during the later half of the 60's and the other big events that followed during the 70's.

So- was he a RWNJ? By modern standards, maybe. He believed in some currently very unpopular stuff. But he also was committed to the greatest societal change we have undergone before our present time. Health care is the first issue that is as large and divisive since civil rights. Does that equally make him a liberal by our modern standards?

But judging the man in his time, No. Not at all. He was no political purist, nor was he an obstructionist when it came to running his Administration.

If you really want to know the answer, just ask any 94 year old person you know. That would be Kennedy's age now, if he had not been assassinated in his prime.
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Old 11-17-2013, 06:07 PM
 
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Is a RWNJ someone who wants to live free?


Agreed

The term "right wing nutjob" applies to anyone who values individual liberty, minimal interference from government, and the right to pursue one's own interests.


If you oppose big government, suppression of individual rights, higher taxes, more regulations, and more entitlements, you are (in the mind of the left) a RWNJ! This, of course, is what we used to call a rational US citizen.
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Old 11-17-2013, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Agreed

The term "right wing nutjob" applies to anyone who values individual liberty, minimal interference from government, and the right to pursue one's own interests.


If you oppose big government, suppression of individual rights, higher taxes, more regulations, and more entitlements, you are (in the mind of the left) a RWNJ! This, of course, is what we used to call a rational US citizen.

I have yet to meet anyone on the left that was for big government, more entitlements or the suppression of individual right.
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