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Old 11-17-2013, 10:48 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Our first house didn't have AC.
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Old 11-18-2013, 01:03 AM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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My first NEW car cost me $2750.... I thought that was outrageous at the time. It had no A/C.
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Old 11-18-2013, 01:07 AM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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Our first house didn't have AC.
My grandparents house in 1962 still had no running water and an out house. The wooden floors had huge gaps and when you got up in the morning, the first thing you looked for was snakes..
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Old 11-18-2013, 01:23 AM
 
Location: Sloooowcala Florida
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Can you even buy a car nowadays without A/C?
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Old 11-18-2013, 01:41 AM
 
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Can you even buy a car nowadays without A/C?
Most likely not, however you can always request for them to take things off to lower the price. And then they can make the money back plus more by selling the parts on craigslist.


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Old 11-18-2013, 01:44 AM
 
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The rising number of "poor" people is growing at an astronomical rate in the US. The rising number of people that live paycheck to paycheck is growing.

Why are things like cars and housing still so DAMN EXPENSIVE for poor people? Cars have been around for like a 100 years now. Houses for God knows how long. The facts are that the majority of Americans are poor as crap. Why can't there be one good car company that makes one very basic and very affordable car model?

For example, why not make a car that has a really simple design, uses all interchangeable parts so it's easy to get the car fixed when issues arrive and the parts are cheap to replace.

Whey can't there be a car that costs between $6,000 to $8500 new?

The car would just come with basics like air conditioning and power steering, but wouldn't have built in GPS or other unnecessary crap. Poor people want to have cars to. They want to be able to buy a brand new car that is DEPENDABLE instead of having to take their chances with the used market.

How come this need hasn't been met by the market? Is it because of all the government regulations in cars like the computer systems that are required now? Is it because the very few car manufacturers have an oligopoly and have decided to not allow for this?

Also, what about the poor housing market? Why are we allowing local governments to regulate that an apartment or house must be a certain square footage minimum?

Why haven't apartments been created that are much like a dormitory or hotel room? Like only 250-350 square feet? Have just 1 bigger room and 1 small bathroom in each. And then just have like 2 community kitchens per floor?

It just doesn't make sense that neither of these demands have been met. It's like government regulations make it impossible to make a profit at even trying something like this.


Government regulations also stop from "slum lords" existing! If you want to make a profit from real estate go build a "Roach" motel in some third world nation like North Korea where you don't have to provide water or electricity and charge a million for it.
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Old 11-18-2013, 01:46 AM
 
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My grandparents house in 1962 still had no running water and an out house. The wooden floors had huge gaps and when you got up in the morning, the first thing you looked for was snakes..
It is Texas!
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Old 11-18-2013, 01:52 AM
 
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Government regulations also stop from "slum lords" existing! If you want to make a profit from real estate go build a "Roach" motel in some third world nation like North Korea where you don't have to provide water or electricity and charge a million for it.
There are millions of roaches in apartments in the US right now as I type this. They are all over the place , especially in the south. There's even rats in NYC, plus bed bugs!

It seems like you haven't rented in quite a while? Or your lucky enough to rent a "luxury" apartment/condo that has residents that clean up after themselves and bi-weekly exterminators come by for pre-emptive attacks on the critters.

Regulations really aren't needed by the govt for housing, except for common things like building safety so people aren't living in a place where the roof might fall on them at any second. The market takes care of slum lords just fine, by the renters moving out right away or doing a better job at inspecting places before they move in.
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Old 11-18-2013, 02:32 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Companies will have to quit selling in quantities, only one thing at a time and in smaller volumes, so they can charge lower prices to better enable the poor to buy needed things.
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Old 11-18-2013, 05:46 AM
 
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Why are things like cars and housing still so DAMN EXPENSIVE for poor people?
these things are expensive because our (A) tax code subsidizes debt, and (B) we've had loose monetary policy for about 30 years

houses get bigger, cars get safer ... as you mentioned, that has an impact, too.
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